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Arabs must take some responsibility : Comments

By Ted Lapkin, published 19/12/2006

The global conflict with Muslim extremism is also a war of competing value systems.

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Israel now has greater threats to worry about than Palestinian activism.

Hezbollah appears to be building a credible force that Israel has not been able to attack successfully in the military sense or in terms of the battle for western public sympathy.

Iran's moves towards building nuclear weapons have to date gone unchecked. The Saudi's are countering this by considering their own future nuclear weapons potential. So Israel will soon not have its traditional and (until recently) unspoken nuclear dominance over its Middle Eastern neighbours.

Hopefully cool heads will prevail and Israel won't attempt preemptive strikes against nuclear ready Muslim states.

But this is the Middle East. Noone should hold their (one day irradiated) breath.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:31:09 PM
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You can't whinge about the existance of Israel and state but, it was created by those colonial imperial bastards the British and is therefore artificial and can go. But that Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia, also equally created by British influence can stay, and are not artificial because they're Arab. Or that an artificial Arab people were created and named Palestinian that the world never knew about until the borders of Israel were carved out of the sand but that there is no such thing as a naturalized Jew.
That Palestinians and Israelis have serious issues to resolve in order to become good neighbours is not at issue by either side. To say that the surrounding Arab states have had no play in the current reality that is the case of the "Middle East vs. Israel" is laughable and utter nonsense.
Funny how the Arabs are comfortable with the borders imposed on them by the hateful British but just can't accept Israels.
Posted by aqvarivs, Tuesday, 19 December 2006 10:39:13 PM
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I think the Arabs major problem is their religion. Islam was a successful and modern religion in the 12th and 13th centuries but today it has become a political and social straightjacket. Moslems seem incapable of attending to their many problems and find it easy to blame others for their general mismanagement and inability to cope. They are adept at organising a rent-a-crowd for some perceived slight to their fragile religion or inducing compatriots to blow themselves up in its defence. The Middle East has the opportunity to modernise and build infrastructure with its oil wealth but they chose to blame the rest of us and fight among themselves while entwined in a religious stricture.
Posted by SILLE, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 6:12:07 PM
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'Finally, keith says that efforts over the last 60 years haven’t worked for peace.

We could give it another say 40 years, or just admit that it isn't working and we need to try something else.'

Not quite what I said. But hey try selling your sentiment to the Israelis and their propagandists anyway.

'... you can’t have a conversation while everybody is shouting at each other at the same time.'

No and equally you can't hold a reasonable conversation while one participant has his jackboot held squarely on the throat of the prostrated other participant.
Posted by keith, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 7:12:45 PM
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RAche... would I support an Aboriginal terror campaign ?

Nope.. all that would do is bring about their total annihilation.
They have neither the numbers nor the weapons.

They should have killed Cooke and company and every white face which ever set foot on this place THEN.. now, its too late.
There is a big lesson in that for our current situation, but killing is not the answer, 'immigration policy' is. I we don't learn from the Aboriginal situation, we deserve everything we get.

MIDDLE EAST structured for instability ? No Rache, it was cobbled out by a number of Nations.. France, England etc.. and was not set up to fail, quite the opposite. It just failed anyway. The French were silly, if anyone set it up for failure, they did, (So I agree with you there) by including a lot of Syrian Shia into the new lebanon nation, thats why we have such a strong Hezbollah now.

Keith.. you naughty boy you.... so many half truths, so much ignoring of history. *smack*... "East Jerusalem "belongs" to the Arabs ? woooo...dare I say 'how did they get it' ? and then dare I say, "Did not the Israelis get it BACK the same way ? :)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 7:52:16 PM
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David

East Jerusalem was mandated to the Palestinians by the UN in the 20th century. It's title is not claimed by reference to some book with a Hebrew bias in which the Hebrew 'God' gave title to the Israelites.

You need to get into the 21st century way of thinking and leave all that disgracefully flawed thousands of years old fundamentalism behind.

Then at least you might have a little credibility when you accuse others of being liars.

Can't help but laughing at your silliness...keep it up. Especially the bit about your 'final solution'. Would you apply that same solution to indigenous Australians?
Posted by keith, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 10:52:49 PM
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