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Stefan Nystrom and 'The Kafka Principle' : Comments

By Paul Bamford, published 15/12/2006

Technically Swedish, Stefan Nystrom’s pending deportation will be perfectly lawful, but is it just a case of Australia exporting its problems?

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Col Rouge,

"We are all sovereign individuals with personal responsibility to either live with in the constraints which the law places upon us or free to digress those laws."

That is true. It is perfectly compatible with the view that we are products of our upbringing, and that it is the responsibility of the citizens of a country that raised a criminal to deal with him.

"That he is a documented “Swede” and that we can deport him is a fact. We are under no obligation to suffer him a moment longer than it takes to send him packing."

The first claim is true. The second begs the question. And it is false. Try and prove it!
Posted by ozbib, Saturday, 16 December 2006 7:22:56 PM
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First I thought I'd misunderstand the whole thing.

I don't really understand how the Australian authorities function, when even considering sending an aussie out of the country forever, away from his family. This is exactly how the British once did, by sending criminals to Australia!

What would be the next step? Sending all skinny and other non-fitting people out of the country.

Oliverf
A Swede living in Sweden
Posted by Oliverf, Friday, 29 December 2006 1:48:57 AM
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If he is a Swedish citizen, Sweden should (and have) accept to take Nystrom back. Even though it seems half ludicrous of Australia to deport him.

But, IS he really a Swedish citizen? From what I gather, he was born 7 years after his mum moved to Australia. If she was an Australian citizen when she visited Sweden in 1974 Stefan would not become a Swedish citizen. You don't become Swedish citizen just because you are born here (sadly for many immigrants), and Sweden did at the time not allow dual citizenship. So unless she filed for Swedish citizenship (which I doubt), he's not Swedish. (I don't know if Stefan's dad was Swedish though? I assumed he too lived in Australia)

Anyway, I think Stefan arrived in Stockholm a couple of days ago. As he's technically a free man, the Swedish authorities saw no reason to welcome him with police or anything. At the moment it seems unclear where he is. Most likely he will go to the small city of Sigtuna, where he can apply for social aid just like anyone else
Posted by M Larsson, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 1:23:43 AM
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Just read in the online version of a Swedish daily paper that the "Swedish Australian" had arrived in Sweden last Friday accompanied by two Australian police officers. Swedish police had checked with Interpol. He was not wanted for anything in Sweden or elsewhere. His relatives picked him up. He has not contacted social services asking for help.
It seems history repeats itself. Like someone wrote earlier. Deporting people is in the Australian history--in reverse though.
If you down under cannot cope with people raised in your country, maybe you should ask for help earlier. I am sure Sweden can send a bunch of good youth councellors to assist you in planning good upbringing all over Australia.
I for one will never visit Australia. If you treat your own people like this, how do you treat visitors?
And I agree, you do not become a Swedish citizen by being born in Sweden.
His mother has apparently told the Swedish press another story than I have read in Australinan online papers. Which is the story really?
My deepest commiseration to the Australians that have to remain there.
Should anyone in Australia feel persecuted I am quite convinced you can apply for political asylum in EU.
A Swedish citizen.
Posted by kitabu, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 8:21:05 AM
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Interesting to read some responses from Sweden about this travesty of justice. However, according to our learned geneticist and statistician, the responsibility for this reprobate falls upon the Swedes because of his inherent "genetic defect". Clearly, having been socialised, enculturated and educated in Australia had nothing to do with his criminality.

Col Rouge: "Since he is the product of Swedish Genes, it is fair and reasonable that the Swedes sort out the problems associated with their genetic defect."

Mind you, Australia should not be blamed for this kind of idiotic reasoning - which is clearly a product of Col's 'English Genes'.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 3 January 2007 8:34:10 AM
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Stefan Nystrøm is NOT a swedish citizen, and was given access to Sweden only because he was not a citizen of any country, but Britain, Canada or any other english-speaking country would have been a better place to send him.

This man did however break the rules (Australian law) and should expect no mercy whatsoever, when (not if..) he breaks Swedish law, he will find swedish prisons enjoyable, but not a good place to learn swedish, as half of the inmates are non-swedes....
Posted by El Per, Thursday, 4 January 2007 12:08:47 AM
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