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Women see red on White Ribbon Day : Comments
By Bronwyn Winter, published 27/11/2006White Ribbon Day should be a time where each man considers his own behaviours, attitudes, beliefs and values he holds towards women.
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Posted by Happy Bullet, Saturday, 2 December 2006 9:40:14 PM
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Posted by Cornflower, Saturday, 2 December 2006 3:56:30 PM
“I cannot understand why men would go along with the feminist oppression of men as represented by WRD” Take one look at Dr Phil – he is wealthy beyond our wildest dreams and women love him – he could get laid a thousand times over. While Phil McGraw is a particularly ugly example that actually only serves to strengthen the arguments I put forth, that is that men turn on their brothers for 2 reasons: to make money and to get laid. Dr Phil demonstrates that if you are prepared to turn ‘kapo’ you will be very well rewarded in both areas, even if you are ‘as ugly as Dr Phil’. Men who do not actively support the dominant current paradigm can expect the active opposite, ie livelihood and lifestyle opportunities will be cut off at the knees and you have as much chance of forming a relationship as laying a golden egg. If you want a blow by blow description of how this occurs: Warren Farrell (who authored The Myth of Male Power) gives an excellent example for the comparison of 'men who do' and 'men who dont' support the current paradigm in his fall from grace as a thrice-elected member of the National Organisation of Women (US) to the horrified and astounded owner of a real fair dinkum Feminist Fatwah. Posted by Rob513264, Saturday, 2 December 2006 10:10:31 PM
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Just like that hard old Bushie who years ago was brave enough to declare after a few rums " I'm afraid of No man , and very few women !".
Perhaps he really was . Posted by kartiya jim, Saturday, 2 December 2006 10:47:16 PM
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"I decided that he did not deserve to live" (or something similar) said a woman who had admitted to lying in wait with a rifle to shoot her husband dead.
She was found not guilty of murder. Go figure! There is no such thing as a culture of violence in this country. there are many other countries in the world where you are much more likey to be bashed, robbed or simply murdered. In australia we have laws which punish those who would sexually assault a woman or even bash her. so there is no culture. Otherwise these laws would not exist. Even in the time when white anglo saxons could shoot and kill certain races without the fear of punishment, laws existed to protect women, admittedly they were laws to protect white women. "Get into the real world and go to your local cop shop and tell them that they act in a sexist manner." This sort of statement is nothing but manipulation. I know once coppers use to work in a sexist manner booking us blokes for speeding and letting the girls off. That has changed much to the consternation of many women. In fact according to one copper I know, blokes are much less likely to lay charges in DV situations. Posted by JamesH, Sunday, 3 December 2006 12:25:41 AM
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I think what many posters forget is that women are "victims" of a male dominated society and while many men do not perceive women as equals (and some women agree) depending on what is included in the definition, feminist have sought and won a legal definition of victim and female equality. Which is why we have so many contradictions in the different levels of social law. Nowhere are there laws stating or implying male equality. In criminal courts men and women are judged by different criteria and different reasoning applied. In family courts mothers are given a different value than fathers and so are the children involved.
Feminist rely on this and encourage the demonizing of the male to benifit the feminist ideology and social movement. The idea that all men must consider their behavior towards women come wrd is more to this end of demonizing men and promoting blanket blame. Feminist have not been battling for equality for the sexes. They have been fighting to reduce the social value of men so that women can have a ascention and dominate social behaviors, thus become the social power behind society. Men bad, woman good Posted by aqvarivs, Sunday, 3 December 2006 3:11:19 AM
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Cornflower, Happy Bullet, aqvarivs, Rob513264, JamesH
I agree with what you have said. Most of the feminists who malign males, who carry out gender bias, and who discriminate against males are employed by Universities. I know of at least one University that no longer advertises for male students to enrol in their courses, and this must be a big wake up call for men and also for women who have sons. Both men and women have got to start to realise what is happening in the academic area. Possibly the author does not even read these comments, so your comments make no difference to her, but this author comes from the University of Sydney, and the University of Sydney defines discrimination as: - Any practice that makes a distinction between individuals or groups so as to disadvantage some people and advantage others. - Discrimination can be 'direct' or 'indirect'. - 'Direct' discrimination is where a person is treated less favourably because of their race, sex, pregnancy, marital status, transgender, sexual preference or orientation, disability or long term illness, age, family or carer's responsibility, social origin, political belief or lack of political belief, religious belief or lack of religious belief than a person without that characteristic in the same or similar circumstances. - 'Indirect' discrimination results when a requirement, rule, policy or practice that appears to treat everyone the same, has a disproportionately unfair impact on particular people or groups of people when it is applied, and is unreasonable. http://www.usyd.edu.au/eeo/harass_discrim/index.shtml I think this article is completely outside the definition of discrimination from the University of Sydney. Complaints about this article, or about any other article written by an author from the University of Sydney can be sent to the Acting Manager, Harassment & Discrimination Resolution at p.lyons@eeo.usyd.edu.au There are some organisations that do not recognize male discrimination, but eventually these organisations become known as organisations that support gender bias and support discrimination. So if the University of Sydney does not process your complaint, then it becomes known as an organisation that supports gender bias and discrimination. Posted by HRS, Sunday, 3 December 2006 10:55:51 AM
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The author says that "men are getting away with murder", because the murderer in this case committed suicide, so was not subject to the justice system.
Campaigns like WRD which blame it all on men has meant that feminists are directly responsible for women ROUTINELY getting away with murder IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, e.g. off the top of my head:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/6076112.stm
Danielle Wails had claimed she was tied up by intruders who started the fire at her Newcastle home in August 2005.
She denied the murder of Alexander Gallon but her guilty plea to infanticide was accepted after psychiatrists said she was depressed.
The 22-year-old was given a three-year COMMUNITY ORDER with a period of supervision and other requirements.
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=149a2851-04eb-4ff0-ab68-4b6e9f141841&k=14964
BARRIE, Ont. - A pair of young sisters caught in the middle of their estranged parents' bitter custody feud were found murdered in an Ontario apartment early Wednesday, allegedly killed by their mother.
Sharon Lynn, whose daughter, Amanda, lives in the building and is close friend of Frances Campione, said
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''That mother needs a hug.'' <-- Because she's a murderer?
There's more up on:
http://www.kittennews.com/
Google ANDREA YATES, multiple child drowner, who N.O.W. in the US campaigned for, to "draw attention to post natal depression [ as a defence for murder ].
And on the subject of blaming men for violence causing greater violence against men:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/jail-for-teens-kerosene-attacker/2006/06/16/1149964741301.html
A MAN who doused a teenager with kerosene and set him alight in a premeditated attack spurred on by false rumours will spend at least 2˝ years behind bars.
The County Court heard there were false rumours among a group of friends who frequented Greensborough Plaza, and the teenager's girlfriend wanted retribution.
I've already mentioned the woman bragging about getting away with murder to Tom Leykis:
http://www.blowmeuptom.com/archive.tl?h=57
I'll never shut up about this, whenever I hear about sexist campaigns like WRD for one.