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A country lost in its own region : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 17/11/2006

Only international pressure on Israel can bring a nation addicted to violence to heel.

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Well said Anthony

David Boaz

Now David remind us all. Why was it you think Israel should b e allowed to carry out ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians?
Posted by keith, Saturday, 18 November 2006 2:57:14 PM
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David Boaz

It is you who is tied to dogma. Tell me when is the next scheduled Palestinian election?
Posted by keith, Saturday, 18 November 2006 2:59:40 PM
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Looks like Israel has been too clever for its own good.

The Jews without doubt do not lack intellect. Their success in Israel is not only related to plant husbandry - including saving water with innovative ideas, but also in military technology. Israel right now is easily the world’s most powerful small nation.

Next door, unfortunately, are also sons and daughters of Abraham, the Arabs, but a tribal line born of a different matriarch. In fact, according to the more nastier critics, though they may look alike, the differences between Israelis and Arabs is as striking as the difference between chalk and cheese.

Different to the Jewish religion, which despite historical persecution has remained surprisingly positive, today’s frustrated Arabs are more likely to look at suicidal bombing as a thankful escape from an uninspiring life.

Recently the Arabs have advanced to using low-range rockets, the Israeli airplane retaliation strikes ten times as severe.

Nevertheless, before the movement of Jews to Israel as the result of the Hitlerite Holocaust, the few Israelies permanently living in Israel and Palestine got on reasonably well with the Arabs.

Worrying the desperate Palestinians even more, is that in the late 1970s the US illegally allowed Israel not only to go nuclear, but also the chemistry and know-how to build its own arsenal of atomic rockets, not only filling the local Arabs with rage, but angering Iran to the point that the former Persia is now well ahead with nuclear site construction, most of it underground

Summing up taking the scientific overhead view, there is little doubt that US favour of Israel has gone much too far, which in political science language has with the added nuclear weaponry of the US and Britain on the side of Israel, got Arabic nations, including Iran, well askew of an ethical ME power balance.

No wonder there is so much Islamic terrorism in the world.

Yes, certainly Israel will lose even it wins. It is so interesting also that we have former so-called undemocratic nations like Russia and China, coming out on the side of fair play.
Posted by bushbred, Saturday, 18 November 2006 4:41:58 PM
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Reality check:
Islam was not a problem before 9/11.
Islamophobia is a product of the Israeli agenda.
Posted by Chad, Saturday, 18 November 2006 10:26:32 PM
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It is a war on two fronts, one is militant Islam and the other is socialism, both being founded on ideals grounded in fantasy.

Antony says that the international community practices hypocrisy when condemning the democratic election of Hamas. Hamas is listed as a terrorist organisation by Australia, Canada, UK, EU, Israel, USA, and banned in Jordan and has a stated policy of promoting obliteration of Israel and therefore cannot be equated with the election of Avigdor Lieberman, who is regarded as a right wing politician.

The Hamas Covenant cites the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", a work of fiction created by the Russian secret police. Hamas accuse the Freemasons, Lions Club, and Rotary of being organizations promoting "the interest of Zionism." Hamas also accuses those organizations, and the "Zionist invasion" in general, of being "behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds."

In addition Antony says that Israel lost the war in Lebanon. This was not a war it was a battle, the war is ongoing. There is no evidence that supports the contention that the recently smashed Lebanon has won any war or battle.

Antony mixes opinion with lies and parades it as "truth"
Posted by rog, Sunday, 19 November 2006 10:14:06 AM
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What utter rubbish.

This idea that Israel wants to commit violence is irrational drivel.

It seems to me that a simple way of analysing, among the mayhem, of who is in the right is to see how they live, how they treat the vulnerable in their societies, how they treat those of other religions.

Yes, you all already know don't you.

Well, for those who don't, let's look at a few simple things that should help you make up your mind.

Palestinian terror groups, one of which is now the government (indicating that the people are genocidal maniacs given Hamas charter, of not removing settlers but of conquering greater Israel) launch attacks from mosques, ferry ammunition around in ambulances, use women as shields, and much worse, whearaes Israel doesn't.

In fact, if we elaborate on this, we see that Palestinians play on Israel's humanity, as they hide in mosques, shoot from mosques because they know Israel won't attack a house of worship.

I wonder if they'd reciprocate?

Sucked in though, because those women Hamas cruelly ordered to be shields just recently, to smuggle terrorists out of the mosque, were shot at by Israel.

Will they learn? Of course not.

To hide in mosques, shoot from them, ferry ammunition in ambulances shows that the Palestinians KNOW that Israel are humanitarian, and they play on that to their strategic advantage.

Does Israel indoctrinate it's children to be suicide bombers at young ages?

How many of you Muslims here know that Hamas regularly uses mentally disabled teenagers to take bombs over?

How many know that, since Bethlehem was given over to Hamas, Christians have had to flee due to persecution. It was bad enough under the PLO, but unbearable under Hamas.

How many of you know that Muslims don't care about Palestinians at all? How many have protested about the appalling conditions Palestinians are kept in in nations like Lebanon, & Jordan?

They can't leave the camps to work or live in the community, as their hosts won't tolerate them as equals.

Nice people.
Posted by Benjamin, Sunday, 19 November 2006 5:10:00 PM
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