It must be you Shazza, back in disguise

OK I just read the HCA case and I must agree with you that my 200 grand increase in property orders was wrong, like go for a million Shazza - or more

The wife and her family and legal team were screaming out in HCA that they WANT to do a deal, not under s79A but s 79A[1A] ie by consent

233 The WIFE drew attention to four aspects of the legislation – those relating to property orders, spousal maintenance orders, financial agreements and child support.

234 Property orders. Section 79(1) of the Family Law Act gives the court power to make orders altering the property interests of spouses.[ ... ] And if the true paternity was discovered after s 79 orders were made, they could be set aside or varied under s 79A(1)(a) if the court is satisfied that "there has been a miscarriage of justice by reason of fraud, duress, suppression of evidence (including failure to disclose relevant information), the giving of false evidence or any other circumstance".

Like what better admission can you have than than an admission [to try to defeat tort, but not getting up] that this and 3 other possible means are FULLY open to Liam

exactly as I said to you on 13 Jan 2001 - and HCA even "copied" my term "novel"

"As far as getting compensation etc from CSA we note your novel "claim" for having looked after her children for a considerable period of time, but we can not readily see how the Acts would allow for such.
However we note there was a property settlement based upon certain facts. Sect 79A of the FLAct allows the court to set aside such orders based upon fraud, duress etc and we would say you could well pursue such relief. The advised strategy would be to "do a deal" with the wealthy parents (for say $40,000 plus "wear and tear") in order to keep their daughter's dirty linen out of court.

Divorce Doctor- Gosh why didnt I think of that ? You mean -ask the parents of the mother to pay for their daughter's affairs?

Do you mean Robert & Yvonne McClelland of Sea lake in Victoria ?
The same Mr McClelland who was an ex counsellor in the former Kennett Governemnt?
The same Mr McClelland who used to be the Mayor of Wycheproof Council in the Mallee District ?
The same Robert & Yvonne McClelland who were conspicious by their total absence during their own daughters' trial and both appeals ?
The same McClellands who said that Derek & Veronica Rowe were Meredith's substiute and wonderful family and a "home away from home"
The same McClellands who kidnapped the 3 children away from Liam when he had them in his care in 1995 while their mother Meredith was hospitilised with a drug induced psychosis brought about by her use of amphetimines and marijuana ?
The same McClellands who live on 8 thousand acres and who will one day leave this multi million dollar property to their children including Meredith McClelland Magill. ( the mother that the CSA would be disadvantaged if she had to repay the child support for the 2 youngest children )
Oh those McClellands. How stupid of me not to think of that.!!
Cheryl King- Chezzie

sounds like the ones Shazza

but you forgot to say "the same ones screaming out to the High Court that Liam can not get up on fraud as a common law tort BECAUSE "fraud" is actually IN the legislation at s 79, SO Liam should ask the court to use THAT path"

but you have to ASK [use Form 1 at FCA, depose the High Court judgment as evidence/concession, it will never go before a judge, so you will be able to settle for what you like]

In fact Shazza, if you ask nicely [and if I get the time] I will do a Summary of Argument for you on this that will knock their socks off

Remember I got my stripes in the Full Court on s 79A over 10 years ago so know all about it

I would also include a Submission on why you should get a refund for ALL the child support, including the biolog kid [which is the reason CSA was so quick to fob you off by simply "reducing" your assessment from 32% to 18%, and not to 0% as per the legislation {by suitable argument}]

hamlett.to be or not to be.liam an cheryl have chosen to BE,to be heard and to BE making an impact.you are wrong,women sue men all the time for adultry.liam has sacrificed his house,car,pension and proberly alot more to try to change laws he should be compensated for his pain.there is more to this than just sleeping around they are kids,little babies he held in his arms at birth,whom he loved unconditionally,obviously you have no idea of how this feels.well i do,you are right money wont ever compensate but what else is there,at least it will compensate what he has lost financialy to pioneer the stand he made,the stand he made for me and many others.you cannot put this behind you,HIS kids will always be his past present and future.my ex tried to commit suicide over what had happend,i found her,i could of just left her there,suicide aint a crime in qld,but i took her to the hospital,i quit my career to look after my son,i still see him as my son and my stepson,i find out shes been injecting drugs and smoking ice,she trys to get me to commit fraud and tell centrelink they are living with her,i tell her no,so a week ago she snatches the kids and does a runner,on drugs,thanks liam,your words"there comes a time when you have to make a stand"im going to.my lawyer says i should be able to get custody,so im cashing in my super to do exactly that so i can give MY SON the life he deserves,hes only 2,i know one day im going to have to tell him the truth what he does with that is his bussiness.and yes i will be going for compensation because she told me there was no chance he wasnt mine and i have a letter written by her saying she knew from the day she thought she was pregnant she knew it might not be mine,so im going to stick it to her.

can anyone help me...