Reynard, you have got it wrong.

Man has created God in his image despite what a search in Google will tell you. It is all spin.

Jesus refered to himself as the "Son of man", http://www.itl.org.uk/why_jesus/wfj_12.html so that gives us no clue as to the physical nature of God.

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Mate... people 'invent' gods which do what 'PEOPLE' want.. for example.. the god of Mohammed allowed him to have something like 13 wives including a child. Not a bad god eh ? But this god of Mohammed only let HIM have that many women.. the 'ordinary' believers could have 4.. but wait..theres more.. they could also have as many slave girls as they liked (were allocated)..so..problem solved. The god of Islam "As many women as you like" and lets face it.. what sells better than SEX.

Jesus "If a man so much as LOOKS at a woman with lust in his heart, he has committed adultery with her"...aah...

Quite a contrast wouldn't you say ? Sounds just like something a marketing manager for MTV hiphop Rock video would come up with...NOT....

Did Jesus have this 'anti sex' thing? Not at all...he underlined the importance of the RIGHT place for unrestricted, totally enjoyable, thrilling conjugal relations with the person you commit your LIFE to...."

Have a read of Daniel 7.13 for info on the meaning of 'Son of Man'
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=34&chapter=7&version=31

See..I make it totally easy :)

What a tragic waste of time ! How can mature people justify spending hours reading and quibbling and praying over an outdated and competely useless text/s around two thousand years old and of little relevance to us. The basic values which seem the last resort by which to justify silly superstition are common to every society, before and after the Old and New Testaments. We don't need religion to tell us that loving our neighbour is good, etc. It's simply common sense. Maybe this kind of religious debate keeps people from causing trouble on the streets, and keeps retardees occupied. But it would be so good to see these poor folk taking action against some of the ills of our age rather than endless and stupid debates over the rights and wrongs of their little cults and the nature of a non-existent God.

Kang, I do believe you have hit the nail on the head.

Oh, Peter is back to some teddy talk. How cute but what is "Christian atheism"?

I suppose for Peter it goes something like "believe in the power of faith" which is simply saying believe in belief? LOL The connection between thought and action is never considered because where is the need reinforced with an effective assessment of the situation, strategy, and the appropriate action to be taken? If the subconscious message is one of "simply believe, and it will be so." then this is nothing more than a cultural codification of ancient magical thinking, a solipsistic dream, a drug, a mind virus and its implied corollary is "don't think negative thoughts, you might cause bad things to happen".

When people and in particular Peter here talk about belief one needs to offer some clarity because belief is difficult, but belief in belief is easy. My point is that religion is simply belief in belief for its own sake rather than belief derived from some factual information which is where intelligence evolves. It is remarkable how many people in a community will be happier to accept someone who never thinks but declares he believes, than someone who thinks deeply but has doubts or questions. For many people, our brains seem to treat beliefs we consider to be true, almost exactly the same as facts. Therefore we need to learn to distinguish the two.... and it is that simple. e.g. Just state the role of bringing your mind and perception as close as possible to the apprehension of the physical reality we all inhabit ... i.e. the world that IS. It's beautiful isn't it? When it comes to the nature of reality, if we want truth, we absolutely must not preconceive but just open our eyes, our minds and OBSERVE ........ because understanding and accepting that all causes and phenomena are natural is really not so far-fetched.

For myself, whilst I can say that beliefs are not scientifically valid concepts, I don’t go as far as rejecting the concept of belief as a predictive, intentional stance.

God is who we he.she/it is when are not ardently believing in this same god.