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The danger in our skies : Comments

By Michael Richardson, published 1/11/2005

Michael Richardson argues migratory birds are the most likely way that bird flu will reach Australia's shores.

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'Bird Flu', SARS - Biowarfare or a Pandemic of Propaganda?

Are we being stampeded into a pandemic? The announcement was made by Dr Nancy Cox of the US Centers for Disease Control. According to an article in The Scotsman, Cox says that a global epidemic of bird flu could dwarf history’s worst infection disaster, which killed between 20 and 40 million people. The reference of course is to the "Spanish Flu" at the end of World War I which, according to a BBC article of almost exactly one year ago, experts say to have possibly been caused by "a bird virus jumping to humans".

The reasoning in the CDC statement goes on like this:

The H5N1 influenza strain that has already killed 42 has a fatality rate of 76 per cent, cases so far suggest. The virus which caused the 1918 pandemic killed only 1 per cent of those it infected. The association is tenuous at best and the reasoning sounds odd, but the message is clear: "Prepare for the worst".

It might be good to remind ourselves that H5N1 is very same bird virus that was being "researched", meaning it was being actively changed and cultured, when Liu Jianlun, a laboratory scientist in China's Guangdong province became the first SARS victim two years ago - on 4 March 2003. Another death of a scientist was later linked to a laboratory in Singapore. The laboratory was culturing the same virus.

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The SARS "pandemic" eventually faded away, but not without leaving a deep impression. A high pitched media campaign had convinced the world it was facing a great threat when in reality SARS turned out to be a comparably minor disease with 8.500 infected world wide and around 812 deaths. Compare that to CDC figures of 36.000 flu related deaths yearly in the U.S. alone. Or compare it with the mayhem of more than 100.000 U.S. deaths from the damaging effects of pharmaceutical drugs in the same time span.

See more at, http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/03/02/bird_flu_sars_biowarfare_or_a_pandemic_of_propaganda.htm
Posted by Wally, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 5:10:16 PM
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Outcry over bird flu hit list
From:
By John Rolfe

November 30, 2005

GORDON Gekko would be proud.

One of the world's largest investment firms has developed a strategy for its Australian clients to profit if bird flu mutates and triggers a "virulent pandemic".

Citigroup advises clients to sell shares in companies that need people to go to public places - such as mall operator Westfield (wdc.ASX:Quote,News), airport owner MAp and casino controllers PBL (pbl.ASX:Quote,News) and Tabcorp.

They should also dump airlines (Qantas (qan.ASX:Quote,News) and tourism companies, which would include Flight Centre.

Investors are told to substitute stocks of companies that would benefit if people were forced to stay in their houses.

These include phone companies -- for instance, Telstra -- and media businesses, such as Austar. Freight delivery firms are also favoured by the Citigroup strategists. The main players in Australia are Toll Holdings and Patrick Corp.

Business ethicist John Sweeney said the analysis had the hallmarks of Gordon Gekko, the character played by Michael Douglas in the film Wall Street. Gekko famously said: "Greed is good."

"This makes your blood go cold," said Mr Sweeney, leader of the Edmund Rice Business Ethics Initiative.
Posted by Wally, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 10:04:18 AM
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Dear Scout

Will government experimentation cause an Avian Flu Epidemic?

Dr. Len Horowitz has recently expounded on the origins of epidemics and their causes, in a wide-ranging article - Avian Flu Fright: Politically Timed for Global "Iatrogenocide" - a copy of which I have placed on my website at http://www.cqs.com/horowitz.htm since I cannot yet find it published anywhere else. (In the article, Dr. Horowitz specifically gives permission for anyone to do so to get the word out.)

While I do not subscribe to everything Dr. Horowitz says in the article, he has some profound observations about epidemics and their connection to vaccines. And he reminds us: vaccines are based on existing virus cultures, since they use "attenuated" or "inactivated" copies of the viruses to supposedly invoke the human immune system to create antibodies.

Now add to this information: a small percentage of people who are treated with vaccines actually get the full-blown illness. This still happens with all the vaccines for childhood illness, even with polio vaccine. Since Avian Influenza supposedly kills more than 50% of its victims, and since there is no natural immunity in the rest of the population, this is an extremely serious matter. How would they prevent those unfortunate enough to get the full-blown illness from spreading it to the mostly-unprotected population?

After reading Dr. Horowitz's article, I remembered that there have been recent press releases about experimental vaccines that are being prepared - right now - for Avian Influenza, and federal authorities are concerned that not enough will be available if there is an outbreak or epidemic. But something doesn't make sense: other articles have stated that the Avian Flu hasn't mutated yet to be able to spread from human to human easily. So how are they creating a vaccine for a virus that doesn't exist yet? And how are they testing such a vaccine, for a virus that supposedly kills more than 50% of its victims?

http://www.cqs.com
Posted by Wally, Monday, 19 December 2005 9:45:47 AM
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Wally - thanks, I checked the article.

What I understand as a layperson.

1. HN51 the current Avain flu strain spreads between birds, but only transfers to humans directly by contact with faeces for example.

2. A human with HN51 cannot spread the flu to another human unless it is by direct contact, as above? Or have all the 65 diagnosed thus far been infected by birds only?

3. Even if the virus mutates so that it is transmissable from human to human via the respiratory system (as with common influenza) - it is not necessarily likely to become a pandemic or lethal; the mutation could be benign, mild or not easliy transmissable. There are many variations a mutation could take.

It is point 3. that makes me think that the media hype is a beat up. I do not know what to make of conspiracies. I do believe that some issues are hyped up to cloud others. As to whether there is a deliberate conspiracy to reduce world population or even as a way for the pharmacuetical companies to make a huge profit from anticipated vaccine sales - I really cannot make a judgement on that. Does appear very extreme.

I take the point that it is impossible to make a vaccine for humans without a virus to start with. Therefore, it does bring into question why stock piles of treatments such as tamiflu are being funded when there is no evidence that this treatment works.

4. I do know that humans have been engaged in biological warfare experiments since at least WW2. Someone must've been producing results somewhere. But where this fits in with HN51 - impossible to say.

I can see that those with a vested interest would prefer to create a scare from 'natural causes' than to admit to lab creations.

Anyway - based on theory of natural causes, I think a pandemic is unlikely - that we are being alarmed unnecessarily and possibly for ulterior motives.

I appreciate the information you have provided and will certainly be giving it all a lot of consideration.

Cheers
Posted by Scout, Monday, 19 December 2005 11:48:13 AM
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