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The danger in our skies : Comments

By Michael Richardson, published 1/11/2005

Michael Richardson argues migratory birds are the most likely way that bird flu will reach Australia's shores.

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Avoiding vaccine or drug liability
November 17, 2005

Vaccine liability exemption language has now been inserted into a large
number of bills in Congress. This must be stopped; please see the excellent
and profoundly alarming article below by Mark Sircus of the International
Medical Veritas Association.

In short, please ask your Senators and Representative to oppose any
legislation that includes exemptions for vaccine or drug liability. Drug and
vaccine makers must be held accountable for injuries caused by their
products, and these new proposed laws gives them free reign to make toxic
drugs and vaccines and not be held accountable for it. The two primary
bills, S1873 (Senate) or HR3970 (House), would literally create a
nightmarish secret government agency, without any public oversight or
disclosure, to oversee the creation of new vaccines and drugs to counter
"epidemics." It would also shield the drug and vaccine industry from public
disclosure of product contents and adverse health reports.

There are a million children in the United States that have developed autism
and other serious neurological developmental disorders as a result of the
mercury vaccine preservative thimerosal, and Senator Bill Frist and others
in Congress want to eliminate liability for this and all future damage done
by vaccines.

Thanks
Jonathan Campbell
CQS Health Alert Update
Posted by Wally, Friday, 18 November 2005 9:57:59 AM
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Deaths lead to Tamiflu safety check

James Meikle and Charlotte Moore
Friday November 18, 2005
The Guardian

Drug safety regulators in the US and Europe are reviewing the safety of the anti-flu drug Tamiflu among children and adolescents after reports of 12 deaths and psychiatric symptoms among users in Japan.

The US Food and Drug Administration said it was concerned about 32 reports of psychiatric "events" among children, including hallucinations and abnormal behaviour. There were two cases where a 12-year-old and 13-year-old had jumped out of second-floor windows of their homes after taking the medication.

The European Medicines Agency has asked manufacturer Roche to provide "all available data on serious psychiatric disorders, including all case reports with a fatal outcome where Tamiflu was involved".

The US and European agencies stressed last night that no causal link had been identified between the use of Tamiflu and reported deaths. The drug is increasingly being used against "normal" flu around the world, and is already being used against avian flu contracted by humans in the far east. It will be a major bastion against any pandemic flu that might follow if the virus mutates.

An FDA advisory committee is considering Tamiflu in children as part of a normal process required for drugs prescribed to children. The agency said the discussion "is not directly addressing any issues related to pandemic flu preparations".

But a preparatory review had found a total of 12 deaths , including a suicide, four cases of sudden death and four cases of cardiac arrest. "In many of these cases a relationship to Tamiflu was difficult to assess because of the use of other medications, presence of medical conditions, and/or lack of detail in the reports."

A spokeswoman added: "Very high temperatures can result in abnormal behaviour from lethargy to hallucinations."

The review comes as Indonesia announced bird flu was responsible for the deaths of two people last week.
Posted by Wally, Friday, 18 November 2005 2:37:30 PM
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Dr. Mercola's Comment:

I swear this whole bird flu saga is something straight from some television mini-series or fiction novel. However, as you know, you couldn't make up a story like this tale of greed and political corruption.

Earlier this year the United States placed an order for 20 million doses of this worthless drug at a price of $100 per dose. That comes to a staggering $2 billion. It was abundantly clear that this drug was not going to help anyone with the flu, and now we find out that this drug has a serious potential of killing children that take it.

To add insult to injury, the drug companies have made a sweet arrangement with the U.S. government that they are not liable for any of the side effects from the drugs. President Bush's $7.1-billion pandemic flu plan seeks broad limits on lawsuits against producers of vaccines and antiviral drugs, but is silent on how those injured or killed by adverse reactions might be compensated.

The liability shield is contained in the Pandemic Flu Countermeasure Liability Protection Act of 2005. It would protect producers and distributors of emergency vaccines from injury suits except in cases of "willful misconduct," a term to be defined later by the attorney general and the secretary of Health and Human Services.

So, even if these drugs or vaccines wind up killing innocent children, these companies will not be held liable. But you don't have to worry as on Saturday the FDA aannounced that Tamiflu was safe. Of course, this is the same agency that gave Vioxx its safetly blessing before it killed 55,000 people.
Posted by Wally, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 3:29:25 PM
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Real knowledge is power

Suggest you do a Google search on the following for an informative read on hat the bird flu is really about! 

Bird Flu or Cash Cow? - The Pandemic Some Want to Have

WHO’s Behind Designer Germs?

by Eve Hillary ~ © 2005

Released November 15, 2005 ~ Sydney Australi
Posted by Wally, Monday, 28 November 2005 3:40:35 PM
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Flying in the face of bird flu fears
Alice Hung in Tainan, Taiwan,
28nov05

FEARS that migratory wild birds would spread a deadly strain of avian flu across the world had little, if any, scientific basis and chances of them infecting humans were even more remote, experts said.

The experts, who attended this week a meeting of the International Waterbird Society in Taiwan, said the biggest threat of the H5N1 strain of highly pathogenic bird flu comes from domestic poultry, not wild birds.

"Wild birds are implicated in spreading the disease because they travel a long distance. There is no absolute proof of that yet," Ron Ydenberg said on the sidelines of the three-day meeting that ended yesterday in the southern city of Tainan.

"The real issue is where the highly pathogenic strain of the virus comes from. That's not in wild birds. It's almost certain it comes from poultry population," said Professor Ydenberg, who heads the Centre for Wildlife Ecology at Simon Fraser University in Canada.

Scientists have warned for months that the virus, which has killed 68 people in Asia, could trigger a pandemic and kill millions once it mutates into a form that is easily transmissible among people.

The World Health Organisation says there are more than 120 documented cases of people contracting bird flu, most of whom were infected directly from poultry.

While acknowledging the risk of the lethal H5N1 virus, experts attending the meeting said there was no need to panic and adopt draconian measures such as killing migratory birds.

"I think bird flu fear has been over-emphasised," said Leslie Dierauf, the director of the National Wildlife Health Centre in Wisconsin, the US.

"It's a very complex virus. In order to be highly pathogenic you have to mix and match with other viruses and mutate. There is no predictability to that. We don't know when it's going to mix, when it's going to match, or when it's going to mutate, or where," she said.

Reuters
Posted by Wally, Monday, 28 November 2005 4:50:55 PM
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Wally - just a quick line to let you know that I am follwoing your posts with a great deal of interest. I have my suspicions about 'bird flu pandemic' and you are helping to keep me informed with your regular contributions and links.

Thank you
Posted by Scout, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 8:02:37 AM
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