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Fact rather than fable in the Iraq debate : Comments

By Ted Lapkin, published 31/10/2006

The study that claims there have been 655,000 civilian Iraqi deaths is the deployment of pseudo-science in a bald-faced campaign to sway America’s choice of leadership.

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Easytimes -- If you want the Middle East, or any other part of the world, to be more like the US, you would have to replace the history of the ME with that of the US. Any other way would lead to disasters like that which Iraq is suffering right now. Ignore history at your peril. There's nothing "anti-American" about this.
Posted by Youngsteve, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 4:22:40 PM
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Won't the world be a wonderful place when it is just like America?

No Drug addiction problems.

No Gun control problems.

No Handgun Homicides

No Racial inequalities.

No Poverty and homelessness.

No Corporate Corruption resulting in billion dollar bankruptcies.

No Billionaire plutocrats amassing ever more wealth.

$7 an hour minimum wage with no free health care.

No need to tell the populace fabrications to get them to support political action and inaction on major issues - No need to lie, cheat, steal.

One world religion - we can all bow down to the Golden Calf.

Who needs anything America doesn't sell?

Who has the right to rule themselves contrary to the way we are told is the only way?

Who is going to win the Propaganda Wars?

Not me - that's for sure.

I can hardly wait.

Note to Easytimes - do us all a favour and move to America, then at least there will be two happier people in the world - you and me.
Posted by BrainDrain, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 6:31:22 PM
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What I am saying is that hopefully Iraq will go down the same path as Japan did with Australian American and Britain’s help. Japan is not a mirror image of the US and I don’t expect Iraq to be either but hopefully they will take the good things that the West has done with its civilization and fashion it into a form of government that is democratic and able to fit in with the Middle East. Maybe they could also get some hints from other Muslim states like Turkey?

I don’t love America I just think they are working for an ends that will ensure a more stable world. And hopefully countries like Australia will be there to help when ever we can.

Anything is better for Iraq looking at the way it is now or was under Saddam!

DrainedBrain would rather do nothing and shut his eyes and put his fingers in his ears the more progressive amongst us think being proactive is a much better idea for being proactive helps emerging nations go through tough times that we Europeans went through and paid for with the deaths of millions of our people.

The helping hand is there for Iraq but will they take it? Let’s hope so.
Posted by EasyTimes, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 8:28:45 PM
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Since you are so wiling to change my name Easytimes, can I suggest you amend yours to EasyAnswers? Totally, utterly, inhumanly wrong Answers but easy ones (Easy on you, deadly to millions)

Clearly, you want to believe that it doesn’t matter how – the Ends Justifies the Means.

Under Saddam, Westerners in Iraq were relatively safe travelling around the country in UN marked vehicles and convoys. Can that be said after three years of US rule and enforcement of ‘Law and Order’?? Take off your blinkers man.

Try asking the Kurds just what a success Turkey is.

Helping Hand in Iraq? With friends like these….

Look at my last post. When the US can claim success on those things in its own country it can tell everyone else how to live – and not before.

(btw. I forgot to mention peadophilia, prostitution, mafia crime bosses, unlimited porn and gang territorial battles in large cities – Such a righteously christian President and country, America)

You hypocritically accuse David Latimer of putting words in your mouth and then you make utterly false accusations of my actions, aims and motives.

My choice was to let the UN perform the ‘task’ of disarming Saddam Hussein. A task they have obviously successfully achieved since no WMD’s were ever found in Iraq or used in it’s own defence against an invading, conquering army
Posted by BrainDrain, Thursday, 9 November 2006 3:21:11 PM
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EasyAnswers? Well, no I prefer EasyTimes.

Braindrain wants the UN to perform the task LOL. How many hundred’s of thousands died because of UN sanctions in Iraq up too 2001? How many more would be dead now if we had still been running around playing silly buggers there? And remember many of those who died were children.

The UN is a silly organization that keeps ill-informed people like Braindrain happy because it makes it look as if small irrelevant powers have a say. The fact is that the UN is the United States. I don’t like that but it’s a fact! Who else is going to do the dirty work when push comes to shove? China? Russia? Germany?
With out the United States the most the UN could do if a country was stepping out of line would be to “ask nicely” and say they will be very cranky if they did not listen to what the UN suggested.
Sure with small issues people can accept the UN but when it comes to decisiveness the UN is useless becasue you have so many differing opinions.
To put it simply has there ever been a debate on Onlineopinon where everybody has agreed?
If disarming Saddam was such a success why was he trying so hard to keep the UN inspectors out? If you have nothing to hide why stuff around so much?
Posted by EasyTimes, Thursday, 9 November 2006 6:08:07 PM
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(cont.)
I would like to remind Easytimes that when I wrote to the PM in 2003 asking him not to send Aussies to Iraq (just what action did you take Easy – go on tell us what YOU did. Sit back and do nothing perhaps? Or not care because it wasn’t your land and house being bombed THIS time?) and to let the UN continue to achieve peace there, through their Weapons Inspectors, our lying scumbag replied personally by writing that we were only going in to disarm Saddam under a (US sponsored) UN resolution and that we were NOT going to in to obtain a regime change!. John Howard told me in writing he was personally willing to let evil, murdering, toturing Saddam remain in charge! As has been proven, Saddam was telling the truth that he had already disarmed before the invasion and so it was a completely illegal attack on a country that could not possibly defend itself against such a one-sided, massive, ‘Shock and Awe’ barrage.

GW showed that, at best, John Howard and Australia’s troops had been completely duped by his ‘good friend’ when he declared after 6 weeks of war with Saddam with his regime in tatters, his statue torn down and not one weapon of mass destruction found- ’ Mission Accomplished’. But apparently it is ok to lie to us and for our PM to lie to me to get what THEY want?

Easytimes is happy to promote the deaths of millions if it means those that survive can be as ‘free’ as everyone is in America. I would rather try saving the lives of those who have done nothing to deserve to die and give them the right to rule over themselves. It is not the people of a country who want to control the world, it is their leaders. That is where all the real world’s trouble lies – the discrepancy between what the average person wants and what those at the top want for themselves.

As for you last blather... (to be cont once the durn time limit lets me!)
Posted by BrainDrain, Thursday, 9 November 2006 7:35:12 PM
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