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Kevin Rudd’s ‘muscular Christianity’ : Comments

By Carol Johnson, published 17/10/2006

The Labor Good Samaritan - Kevin Rudd - is weak on homosexuality and the Culture Wars.

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West,

Stop being so paranoid I don't hate homosexuals - although I'm willing to make exceptions... I have a very good friend who is a homosexual. To be honest he hasn't said much about religion and I haven't said much about homosexuals but I'm pretty sure he is gay and he would be pretty sure I am a Christian. What is really different is that he never angrily says that Christians are obsessed with homosexuals. Why that would be the case cf. Christian bashers in here or people who wear rainbow sashes in Church is anyone's guess.

"the Bible defines God in genesis which literally describes God as a Homosexual."

Bugger! Now you tell me. I missed that bit. I'll have to go re-read the Bible.
Posted by mjpb, Friday, 27 October 2006 12:42:20 PM
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"I made someone here laugh! ( out loud )"

"My Work here is done!"

GodYahwehZeusAllahBrahmanZarathustraetc...
Posted by BrainDrain, Friday, 27 October 2006 12:55:37 PM
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“…he never angrily says that Christians are obsessed with homosexuals.”

Probably because most christians aren’t. Indeed, catholics and anglicans align with the general population in this respect. Approximately two-thirds of them don’t think that homosexuality is immoral http://www.tai.org.au/publications_files/Papers&Sub_Files/Homophobia%20webpaper%20Final.pdf

The problem is that the one-third, and the other less tolerant christian denominations actively campaign against homosexuals, and in doing so, create the environment in which hate and homophobia can thrive.

Earlier this week the WA Christian Democratic Party put out a newsletter urging “that a massive campaign be launched by all Christians to fight on these three [gay rights] battle fields,” and Gordon Moyes issued a press release entitled “Gay Rights or Religious Rights?” Earlier this year Peter Jensen described the anglican church’s inner conflict over same-sex clergy as a life and death struggle.

It is quite typical for the christian religious right to portray their activism against gay rights as fight to the death, a zero-sum game where the possibility of living alongside each other peacefully is excluded.

This is (albeit relatively low-key) incitement to hatred, and it is extremely unhelpful to people whose lives are affected by homophobic attacks and discrimination.

The term “christian bashers” is a rather extreme term to describe those who are critical of this kind of rhetoric. When I use the term “basher”, I’m actually referring to people who commit violent acts on others whom they think are homosexual. Anyone who thinks that what’s happening in this forum is christian bashing is still yet to grasp the daily reality of poofter bashing.
Posted by w, Friday, 27 October 2006 2:14:49 PM
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You really are a one trick pony arent you West?

this horse is dead West, some what like your logic and understanding of the Bible, - put down the flogger pal and go back to your psychology text books.
Posted by sneekeepete, Friday, 27 October 2006 3:10:55 PM
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Im sure if you are right God will say so sneekeepete. But since God has given us a resounding sign he is either gay or doesnt exist at all I dont like your chances. With recent events in Nicaragua where the Roman Catholic Church has influenced the Sandinista government to persecute women, Sheik Taj el-Din al-Hilaly's attack on women , Tony Abbots attacks on women in his attempt to gain theocratical control over womens bodies using abortion as a lever, along with the anti woman anti ordination movement with women becoming more and more marginalised by god believers , Kevin Rudd has his work cut out for him. Does god agree with you sneekeepete? Lets here what god has to say? Next post from God?
Posted by West, Saturday, 28 October 2006 12:10:06 PM
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WEst

U seem to spend loads of time arguing against a God you don't believe in. Do you see this as your mission in life or is it just that you are angry with your Creator? Why would you waste your time attacking someone who you believe does not exist?
Posted by runner, Saturday, 28 October 2006 12:24:49 PM
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