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A Real Test of Diversity : Comments

By Saeed Khan, published 5/10/2006

Rather than leading the way towards a better future, opponents of multiculturalism are taking us back a century

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The book is pretty long and detailed Pete so here...

http://www.ipa.org.au/files/news_527.html

you might gleen some things from this article.

"What Lopez tells is a fascinating story, the story of how a small number of activists---of a variety of ethnic backgrounds, including Anglo-Celtic---sought to change public policy."

"Another lovely little nugget from the book is how the tactic of accusing critics and opponents of racism was established almost before multiculturalism itself as a term was. Then and since, multiculturalism has often provided examples of what might be called the motivational fallacy. In the case of multiculturalism, the fallacy works as follows: I advocate multiculturalism as a way of combating racism and prejudice, therefore, if you criticise multiculturalism you are guilty of racism and/or harbouring prejudice. This has a triple benefit as a mode of argument. It delegitimises critics and criticism, it elevates the mode of action or claim being defended and it establishes or reinforces that action or claim as a moral asset for its proponents."
Posted by T800, Sunday, 15 October 2006 10:52:48 AM
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While all you may debate about Australian values and how immigrants should conform to these. Well in the eyes of an Aboriginal man YOU are all immigrants. The racism debate will always be in Australia due to the fact that we Aborginal people hate you all. We don't discriminate - WE consider you all immigrants. This land was never ceded (no treaty, no compensation, just stolen land) by us Aboriginal people and until you all realise this the immigrant and Muslim debate needs to take a back seat. Racism in Australia has its core and roots with Aboriginal people which is why its needed to be fixed first. White Australia has systematically oppressed Aboriginal over the last 200yrs. If you think that this is crap do you research with an open mind (a huge challenge for any white Aussie due to their social conditioning). You want our culture to display to the world but you don't want the people. Whilst Australia continues to focus on the Muslims and immigrants. Watch out for the Aboriginals. We've been peaceful in our approach to gaining rights but the radicals are gaining momumentum. Keep oppressing us Australia but eventually we will fight back like Australia has never seen.
Posted by nosy-t, Sunday, 15 October 2006 2:07:26 PM
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T800, all your selective anti-multi cultural references won't cure anyone from being a racist or develop the self reflective intellectual capacities you desperately require to live in this globalising world.

Did you know that the term multiculturalism was created to describe an existing social and cultural human condition - not a beginning point from which to demographically engineer it.

'White' people only equal 20 % of the world’s population - did you know this well known fact?

You really need to get out more mate.
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 15 October 2006 2:07:56 PM
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Rainier wrote:

'White' people only equal 20 % of the world’s population - did you know this well known fact?

Unquote:

Okay, as a 'white' person can I claim the same rights of other minorities against my culture being corrupted by outside influences?
Posted by Hamlet, Sunday, 15 October 2006 3:37:09 PM
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Hey all you pro multiculturalist I have the stick for you now all you need is a dead horse and you will be set to go!
Posted by EasyTimes, Sunday, 15 October 2006 10:15:09 PM
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Dee - When you talk about the "corrosive effect diversity has on communities", you seem to be arguing that any ethnic mixing is bad. Can you give an example of a nation that is ethnically "pure"? If so, how do you rate it in terms of your idea of a "successful" nation?

You make interesting linguistic choices e.g. Putman's proposed ‘deconstruction’ is "totalitarian" because people have a right to "share with those with whom they identify". Do people also have the right to share with others who are different, if they want to? Or are you a supporter of a "totalitarianism" of a different kind?

You assert that the tendency to want to share with like people is "hard wired within the human race". How would you prove this claim to a genetic universality? Or is it just a value preference?

You condemn Putnam because he thought it would have been irresponsible to publish his research without "proposals to compensate for the negative effects of diversity". Do you think researchers should just provide the "facts" and not provide recommendations for policy makers? Do you believe this is a universal truth. Would it apply to all the researchers you know? Or is your concern that Putman provides the "wrong" recommendations?

And do you really think that academics like Putman are capable of imposing what you call "the failed doctrine of multiculturalism upon increasingly unwilling Western countries"? How do these researchers go about imposing their "doctrines" on "Western countries" which, as you say, are "increasingly unwilling"? It must be very hard.
Posted by FrankGol, Sunday, 15 October 2006 11:52:31 PM
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