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The battle for balance : Comments

By Alby Schultz, published 2/10/2006

The Child Support Agency is a customer relations nightmare.

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CSA facilitates this perfect crime in more ways than one.

What is paternity fraud? Paternity fraud occurs when a mother purposefully lies about who her child's biological father is.
If an innocent child is lied to concerning a fundamental thing like who their biological father is, what are the medical and emotional consequences that child must face? If a man is lied to about being a child's biological father, what are the financial and emotional consequences he must deal with?
Heartache and abject misery abound when mothers make the choice to commit the crime of paternity fraud. It's as simple as that. What's the issue? Paternity fraud isn't a laughing matter, despite the millions of bumper stickers pasted around the world that ask: "Who's your daddy?" Paternity fraud destroys not just the bedrock concept of right and wrong, but the immediate family members of paternity fraud victims.If you lie about paternity, you've commited a serious crime, and you should pay the price. We have joined millions of people around the world to fight paternity fraud. Their web site www.PaternityFraudAustralia.com.au is another starting point to stopping the crime of paternity fraud.
Where is the justice for these victims ? It's crystal clear that paternity fraud destroys entire families both financially and emotionally. The lies hurt. The lies are unacceptable. The children of paternity fraud victims are victims themselves. They often grow up unaware of their correct medical history or their cultural background.

Truth is, we're in big trouble when the crime of paternity fraud is treated as another "gotcha" on television shows like Desperate Housewives. Guessing the paternity of a baby these days is a sick part of our twisted sense of family. We're not supposed to lay moral judgement on mothers who lie about human life.
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> Mothers who commit paternity fraud should be punished to fit the full scope of their crime for all parties concerned. After all, a civilised world will not continue to exist if the truthful disclosure of a child's biological father remains - a cheating wife's choice.
Posted by chezzie, Friday, 6 October 2006 9:44:06 AM
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Just thought I'd share another one of my favourite problems which the CSA help facilitate:

Because CS has to be paid rain hail or shine, they have absolutely no power in the relationship. Great, us evil fathers can't manipulate the poor downtrodden women and their defenceless children.

But what about the flipside. If we father's don't do what they want, cough up extra money they demand, etc, they simply pull the plug on the kids. Nope, you're not having them this weekend, I've made other plans.

This will be my second weekend without them. Here I am, my family helped me pay to renovate and fix up a nice new room for them (yes she's all bitter and twisted about that), and it's now been empty since it was done.

It would be nice if we could at least pull some of that CS money when they play games like this. Perhaps then they wouldn't play these games.
Posted by Kalin, Friday, 6 October 2006 10:45:18 AM
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My husband has been having a child support battle for nearly 8 years. He is a self employed Structural Engineer and his income is $62920.00. This is his income there are no fringe benefits, we pay for the use of the company car. Up until January this year we had sole care of his two children as well as my own and our little one. Child Support has decided that he earns $82,000.00. It doesn't amtter how much evidence we give them, tyhat is what they have decided and they will not change it. His ex-wife however has had her income lowered by child support and is also allowed to have around $7,000 tax deductions as well. My husband is not allowed to have any tax deductions. We have given letters to Child Support from the Accountant, who thinks this is just ludicrous and also asked Child Support to contact the Accountant which they just will not. At present we have not been able to pay our mortage since October last year, a fact well known by Child Support, but they still will not put my husband's income to the real $62920.00.
Furthermore there have been so many mistakes by Child Support, eg they decided that My husbands company income was $78280 one time becuse the number was on the front of his company tax papers. This happened to be the Identification number for the Industry in which my husband works. Also what is with Reason 10? My husband has had to support me and my children after I have our child. I was earning nothing and put in my tax return to prove it. My husband worked like an animal to increase the business to help support 4 extra people, Child Support decided that they could not allow Reason 10 because my husband was earning extra money to look after his own children, this was 2-3 years after he had already been looking after his children and just after I had our baby and stopped work.
Posted by Krisgar, Friday, 6 October 2006 8:44:25 PM
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New child support is hard to understand: Law Council

By Kate Corbett 5/10/2006 AAP

New laws governing child support are so complex that even the Law Council of Australia is having trouble understanding them, a Senate inquiry has been told.

"If a group of highly experienced lawyers could not work out what some of the new clauses meant, what hope did their clients have?" Law Council spokesman Ian Campbell asked the inquiry today........cont

( gee why does this just not surprise me ? Cheryl King )
Posted by chezzie, Friday, 6 October 2006 10:14:42 PM
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Aziliz, I'm not trying to offend you so if it's coming across that way sorry. I don't think I'm being unreasonable on this issue but I do think the current system is incredibly destructive.

If I understand your position correctly, you don't mind C$A, they have not done much for you but they've not done you any harm either. Try seeing that from the position of someone who has been forced to pay an ex partner a reward for doing the wrong thing in relation to residency and for not liking work much.

Imagine the pain of the dads who are forced to pay so called child support to someone who makes sure they hardly ever see their kids, not because they are abusers but because the system lets mums play games with the kids well being. The system provides financial incentive for low skilled or lazy mums to not share residency if their ex happens to earn a reasonable income. It does not seem to matter how much of the out of hours care a dad did before seperation, that prime care thing can be fairly slippery.

I'm of the view that there may not be a fair way to run a child support scheme that does not do more harm than good. We may as a nation be better off without it, too many lives are being wrecked.

If we can't ditch the whole thing at least start taking the reasons for the residency and income differences into account so that people are not rewarded for doing the wrong thing.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Friday, 6 October 2006 10:17:55 PM
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Robert, just because I don’t spew vitriol doesn’t mean I wasn’t ‘harmed’, but more importantly my children were extremely ‘harmed’ both by the divorce and by me working around the clock to make up for the lack of financial support—especially as one of my children became an invalid who at one point needed round the clock care and didn’t get it. I also have experience at 50/50 share of custody. I have experience of completely losing my children with little chance of getting them back including being denied any access let alone every second weekend so I do know what that feels like.

I just choose to look at the bigger picture.

There needs to be clarification on what modern marriage, de facto partnerships, responsibilities and obligations of parents are and what happens at divorce as an overall package that takes into account the rapid changes that have overtaken these ‘institutions’ in the last few generations and the impacts that is having on all (not just estranged men).

Questions that need reconsidering include: should men be responsible for children they father unintentionally or not? Should all babies be tested for paternity from birth? What’s the responsibilities and the rights of a man who looks after another man’s children? Should there be 50/50 access as a basic presumption on divorce? Should there be no fault divorce? Should men have to support there estranged children at all? What exactly should marriage as a contract obligate? Should all marriages be subject to enforceable prenuptial agreements? Should value be placed on unpaid work? Is it selfish and irresponsible if a person stays home full-time caring for the children? If the partner who wants that as well selfish too? Is the ideal that all of society should be modelled on a couple who both have high-powered careers with children put in childcare from birth? And many more.

We’re a society in transition, and sloppy haphazard way these changes are being managed increases distress.

I will continue this with my answers to these questions when next I am allowed to post.
Posted by Aziliz, Saturday, 7 October 2006 1:23:09 PM
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