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If you can't stand the missionary heat, you should get out of Abraham's spiritual kitchen : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 21/9/2006

If Muslims become defensive or even hint at violence, they will be personifying and confirming the Pope's claims.

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Criticise Islam all you like. It's no skin of my spiritual nose!
Posted by Irfan, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 3:39:36 AM
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relda,

As far as the pub thing I would agree. He is hardly a BBC knee jerk reaction kinda Muslim. As far as the dinner thing I'll let you two work out that type of thing for yourselves. ( :


"Criticise Islam all you like. It's no skin off my spiritual nose!"

It is so much to see a display of integrity in here. I am continually highlighting nastier examples of hypocrisy. Further, in those examples I have criticized the hypocrisy of the people doing the attacking. In their position integrity should be easier to maintain.
Posted by mjpb, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 9:17:22 AM
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mjpb,
Haven't had the dinner invite yet :) - might have to stay with the 'pub-talk'.

Like many, I'll too take criticism in good faith. It are the ones who are a little fragile I worry about.
Posted by relda, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 9:50:31 AM
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I won't fall into the same trap again, and get myself kicked off for responding to cowards who claim to disagree with one of colour is to be a racist.

You people can't even see that it is you who are discriminatory. To condemn people for having legitimate concerns about racist tribes who have brought their racist cultures with them is laughable.

I point to a simple, yet clear interpretation:

Australians aren't and never have been racists. When we first came here there were many hatreds between Scots, Irish, English, yet somehow they got along (not perfectly of course, there were incidents) and developed perhaps what was the best country in the world.

The White Australia Policy was a myth. It wasn't about race, but a diction test, and during it's reign, many a wealthy Chinese family immigrated here. It has been hijacked by extremist leftists who want to have an open door immigration policy (bizarre that it's not these people, then, demanding colonialism of the states the middle-class asylum seekers flee, to be turned into western style nations).

Are you people really saying that, Australia, which has never had a history of race trouble, riots, until Muslims came here (this by no means means they are all bad, anyone who thinks that must think that way and is likely a racist themselves - people have got so petty that if one comments on another ethnicity they must be doing it for racial reasons, wake up people, this isn't Africa or the middle-east, or Asia, where ethnic hatreds are the norm)

That, we have taught our kids tolerance in schools for decades, that women are equal, that everybody has the same rights under the law, that we, are racist? As opposed to cultures that we have brought on mass that come from lands with inherent racism, ethnic and tribal divisions, religious violence galore, such as Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, um...every Islamic nation but Turkey?

Get real people......
Posted by Benjamin, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 3:33:39 PM
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Our media is fine with reporting these things on the news every night, although somehow tries to blame America for the vile racism between the different ethnic groups in Muslim lands.

It is truly astonishing how most people really don't have an understanding of what context means.

"The US armed Saddam!" they say, well, of course they did. Look at the lovely neighbours next door, and next door to them.

The whole region is a pit of racism, violence, misoginy, and corruption. Does anybody truly deny this is because of their cultures, that of every man for himself (yes, capitalism!).

Afghani widows begging for food because husband was killed fighting the Russians were whipped, hit, spat on, no Centrelink there, it's every man for himself.

Yet still Muslims are furious we are in Afghanistan. Do you not see what that means? From here, in Australia, with it's Medicare, Centrelink, hospitals, they can't get over their racism. We simply want to turn that dump into this paradise, shouldn't they be for it, they chose to live here!

Racism is a powerful concept, ill-defined in our society to mean one who comments against multiculturalism, but in a real sense, racism is rife everywhere but in European cultures.

Racism is seen in marriage practices, in not swimming in the pool if infidels are present, but especially in how whenever the bigoted Muslim leaders make their vile comments, the Muslim community never protest to have them removed.

THIS IS WHAT STICKS IN THE MINDS OF AUSTRALIAN-AUSTRALIANS. It's the same about how there were no phone calls to dob in those dogs who kicked that guy at Cronulla, not to mention the stabbings, threats of pack rape as woman are accustomed to now from certain groups.

Isn't it funny to that whenever England plays Scotland, we don't have the millions of anglo's going for their homelands? Perhaps we are the only who truly consider themselves AUSTRALIAN.
Posted by Benjamin, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 3:38:34 PM
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Benjamin

"You people can't even see that it is you who are discriminatory. To condemn people for having legitimate concerns about racist tribes who have brought their racist cultures with them is laughable."

Tell that to the aborigines.
Posted by K£vin, Wednesday, 27 September 2006 8:06:46 AM
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