An inconvenient truth that Al Gore does not mention is his family's (and his?) vast holdings in Occidental Oil in Latin America. Not only has Occidental been responsible for the death and destruction of many indigenous peoples but also the pollution and destruction of land in their grab for more oil profits.

Where does Al Gore stand on that?

Candy that all sounds shocking ... but can one shareholder, even with VAST holdings, be held responsible for a company's actions? To help enlighten us how did you determine that Al Gore actually holds vast quantities of this stock?

In a wider context, are you implying that these native people will somehow benefit from climate change ... or are you merging another issue to cloud the waters?

I have a problem with this type of statement that makes no attempt to support the position. Do I have to do the web search? Does this somehow imply that anything Al Gore says cannot be trusted? Your further comments would be appreciated.

I am sorry that you do not understand the relationship between oil exploitation and oil dependency and climate change. I did think it was already clear. I doubt you really want facts or you would not say something stupid like do I think the indigenous peoples would benefit from climate change.

As to the proof or information you say you are interested in knowing on Al Gore and Occidental Oil - it is easy to google. And finally, it is an old truism, but true nonetheless, that your actions speak louder than words. If you have oil holdings, investments, etc. or if you divested yourself of them, incorporate that into what you say. It shows you have made changes in your life.

And yes, we are responsible for where we invest as well as where we spend our money.

I have googled, and found that Candy is not telling the truth. I am not surprised, and neither are you, but why should we keep excusing and forgiving this behaviour?

For the record, Candy is taking advantage of Al Gore having the same name as his father who died in December 1998. When the father died, Al Gore Jnr was in control of his estate which included oil, land and other shares, and the oil shares were sold sometime in 2000.

Candy should apologise for misleading the forum. Of course, people like that don’t apologise, do they.

I'm getting rather disgusted and despairing about people who do nothing more than spin obvious lies and rumours. Every time they do it, someone decent has to spend time knocking them down and asserting the truth.

Look at the nonsense of KAEP asking us “to LOOK at the data for themselves” because we “cannot rely on NASA” or reputable scientists. This is from an anonymous post, linked to an opinion piece written by a public affairs company director.

Do you really think that clutching onto any old rumour or repeating plain nonsense is going to make the rest of abandon our values which include integrity, civility, fair go, honesty and responsibility?

I can assure you it won’t happen.

I'm getting rather disgusted and despairing about D Latimer who does nothing more than spin and obfuscate the SCIENCE without ever having looked at the data or having properly read the links presented. Every time he does it, someone decent has to spend time knocking him down and asserting the truth.

IF you LOOK at the data for yourself, and NASA's Sept 21 article you will see that we “cannot rely on NASA's reputable scientists". It's Res Ipsa Loquitur. And the opinion piece written by a public affairs company director is a totally separate issue and is based on a number of significant scientists' observations, including those of our own Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University.

Mr Latimer, do you really think that clutching onto an Australian Republic to profit from sudden fiscal and cultural shifts in Australia's socio-economic fabric excuses you from repeating confusion and nonsense as a substitute for looking at scientific data?

As for your slander, I won't lodge a complaint this time but I will reflect it right back at you to let you feel how hurtful your kind of republican politics can be: Whilst YOU abandon OUR values of integrity, civility, fair go, honesty and responsibility, people watch and NOTICE .

I can assure you an Australian Republic will be at least 50 years away and out of the reach of secular profiteers, due to your clumsy efforts. And I hope your bully-boy Republican idols are REAL pleased about that

The following Sea Height Anomaly map of Australia's coasts for today
can be used to discover where wastewaters are being most problematic in causing DROUGHT and Bushfire conditions around Australia over the coming summer months.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1159247773.gif

This map along with SST data from NOAA can be analysed to determine which wastewater plumes need to be cut back and by how much in order to gradually reverse Drought and bushfire conditions across eastern Australia over the coming months in much the same way as the US reversed Hurricane conditions across the Gulf of Mexico since May 11 this year.

I will proceed with this analysis IF I get appropriate support from this forum and from the PM's newly formed water resources office http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/pm-sets-turnbull-at-water-crisis/2006/09/26/1159036513015.html .

In any event people on this forum ought to be able to see that coastal SHA structures are related to very specific industrial, metropolitan, agricultural and remote aboriginal reserve regions. Given the heavy structuring off the East coast and a little knowledge of the second law of thermodynamics it should not be surprising that Australia is experiencing its worst drought. It also should not be surprising that this year's bushfires will be horrific and very expensive to contain if less expensive actions to clean up coastal waters is not taken.

Note: the SHA map is temporary so if people expect to view it after 2 days then they should save it to disk.