Wonderful TRTL by labelling those who abhore the brutal killing of infants as you have shows your utter arrogance and a closed mind.
Just look at what we are doing: We spend millions on IVF treatments , then spend millions on cold-bloodedly murdering defenceless infants, who by the way are not asked if they really want to be liquidated and flushed into the sewers or turned into pet food or whatever - how utterly and completely stupid. And who makes the money on both fronts yep that's it your friendly, caring doctors.
It is incomprehensible to me that decent medical people most who have families of their own can enjoy and make a great deal of lovely money destroying, in my views - nazi like- fellow humans. What an utterly foul, stinking and disgusting bloody trade. "What does your Dad/Mother do?" "Oh he/she kills totally defenceless little babies" Regards, numbat

Good point, there's such a big deal about abortion counselling centres that don't counsel women to have abortions, but not enough about those that don't counsel against abortions. Really, a woman [and the father of the child] need to be shown all three options before they can make an informed decision.

For my 2 cents, my mother's doctor also told her to get an abortion as soon as she found out she was pregnant. "You're 18, this child will ruin your life" he said, reaching for the phone to schedule an appointment (to an abortion clinic) before she could even grasp what was going on. I'm certainly glad she told him to put the phone down and get lost.

Well...well,
How are you all ? For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What friut had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed ? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So, sanctify yourselves for tomorrow the Lord will do wonders among you..that all the people of the earth might know the hand of the Lord, that it is Mighty that ye might "fear the Lord your God forever." Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall "direct thy paths." Be not wise in thine own eyes: "fear the Lord, and depart from evil. It shall be "health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones".
Honour the Lord, and despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of His correction; for the whom the Lord loveth He correcteth; even as a Father the son in whom he delighted.
The curse of the Lord is in the house of the wicked; but He blesseth the habitation of the just. "sure;y The Lord scorneth the scorners; but He giveth grace unto the lowly. The wise shall inherit Glory: but shame "shall be the promotion of the fools."

Hear ye children, the instruction of a Father Who Art in Heaven as we say together "Our Father, who Art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name."

here we go again. Melinda Tankard Reist is very firmly pro-life and has very strong affiliations with the Catholic Church. Thanks Melinda for highlighting the dangers of surgical abortion. There are risks inherent in living and women in labour have very high mortality rates in places and times where there is no modern medicine. In the 1770s the most common cause of death for women was childbirth, followed by burns from cooking fires. My understanding is that abortion is considerably safer for the woman than childbirth.

In the last 12 months there have been forums on whether women should have access to RU486 or mifepristone to enable medical abortion to occur at an earlier stage than is possible with surgical abortion.

Numbat, in response to your comment.

I wasn't trying to cast aspersions on those on either side of the debate, but merely pointing out that the first two (three I might add) responses weren't particularly informative or persuasive.
Lets be honest 'they'll be punished,' 'seek forgiveness from god' and 'it's just like a botched dentist trip' are hardly reasoned, well informed arguments.

I'll admit my sarcastic phrasing of 'another eloquent appraisal' comes across sounding somewhat dismissive of the other sides opinions, and for that and that alone I offer my apologies.

Though the true example of "arrogance" and "closed mindedness" would be using emotive arguments like saying foetuses could become petfood, or implying they are flushed down the toilet. That is plain childish, and warping the debate.

The debate I might add, is about dangerous practices within the abortion industry, something I pointed out is worth investigating. The entire point of my post was to try and keep this debate from degenerating into an "abortion good" or "abortion bad" slanging match. You appear to have deliberately ignored the point of my post in favour of pushing this wheelbarrow, and holding me hostage as a receptacle for your anger.

I'm willing to see the IVF side of your argument as having merit, but the rest of it is purely emotive, and I would encourage you to focus on practical arguments as they will get you much further and are much more persuasive. Bible passages such as Lady's don't carry much weight in this I'm afraid.

I may be pro-choice, but I am willing to concede this article has merit, despite being written by a pro-life advocate (says billie).

Now who of us, honestly, is being closed minded? And can we please get back to the topic of the article?

Billie
Yep here we go again she never gives up trying to tell others what to do with their life what to think and even when.

ok Melinda we get it that you would not want a termination.

Goody. Plenty would so why dont you just back off and leave people alone.
We know a lady who has several kids.

She is not married. She went to obtain a termination but having no money had to go public.
Now she is being told she cant be put out because of the fussy feeling of bonding with the bay straight after its born.

This is the pro Churchy push ripe through the Government hospitals.
They told her[she is 24] that it was hard to get the tube down her throat and she could die.
Nice!
She cant give birth naturally but they want her awake to be cut open.

Tell you what you people really need to be sued by somebody pushing this agenda and the case to be very public.

Shes been bullied into another kid she really cant afford.

Shes not in a fit state to mangange 4 kids under 5 but he keep pushing your agenda.

So clearly its going to effect the other kids as well.

Too dam right these church Councilers need to be replaced with open minded fair main stream councliers