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Why Islam is the new Marxism : Comments

By Tanveer Ahmed, published 23/8/2006

Islamism promises a better life for the poor, oppressed and alienated. It is cloaked in God, but its essence is strongly secular.

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I post this from research done by Salt.

Hitler, the Mufti of Jerusalem, and Islamic Fascism
I’ve read about the alliance between Adolf Hitler and Muslim Arab leaders in World War II, and seen still photographs, but this is the first time I’ve seen actual video of Hitler meeting with the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini—Yasser Arafat’s alleged uncle. From a German TV documentary, with English subtitles. (Hat tip: Justify This, who also created the Azzam Tamimi “shrieking jihad” video.)
On Little Green Footballs website.

Click here then click on the 'screen' to play the 5 minute video.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22137_Hitler_the_Mufti_of_Jerusalem_and_Islamic_Fascism&only
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:06:17 PM
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CodyB,
"I believe Islam to be going through a similar period to what Europe went through in the Middle Ages, 100 years Islamic countrys were not nearly as strict as they are these days,"
A good point -something I've pondered myself.
But factor in this. Given that a good number of Islamic countries have their current lifestyles subsidised by oil revenue (& they are experiencing/encouraging rapid population growth).What happens when oil runs out? Do they continue down the same path, maybe accelerate down the same path.
Or will they, frustrated & bitter revert to extreme forms of Islam & blame the rest of the world for their woes-even more than they do now.

All,
A good read, & eye opener, if you have access to it is “Onward Muslim Soldiers by Robert Spencer”
Posted by Horus, Friday, 25 August 2006 6:16:24 AM
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Horus,
Oil money may have kept their dream alive now and in the past, but in the future they will no longer live in the Middle East as they will take up the new technoligies like natural gas, ethanol, biodeisel, hydrogen power in the countries they once supplied with oil. That is the reason for their present transmigration into Western Countries. They will own the sourses of power and all will have to buy from them.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 25 August 2006 7:37:16 AM
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thanks to all who have contrubuted with ideas regarding this topic!
all the insights have been really usefull.

Pericles, i have read your posting again and think makes more sense now that i know were you comming from... thanks for the explanation.

i would like to ask you all a quetion of supreme importance for my and the children ill be teaching political and legal studies and history in the years to come.

It is evident that we all have special interests when talking about historical happenings. and in concequence, i am trying working out a resource file that contains balanced instructional material that precent as many views as pocible -this, obviously in order to avoid the difucion of rasism, intolerance, and ethnocentrism; problems that as at today, have aflicted our lives and threatens our very existence.

So, i was wondering if some of you are interested in contributing to this couse by making sugestions, providing reliable web links, books titles, video sources, work sheets, pocible lesson materials and or even schoolarly talks that ultimatelly would contribute to better teaching practice and a better world. please concider that my "subjects " are high school children and so material has to be less complex than the one we are used to digesting.

Have you ever thought of making a contribution to the world? this is a good start!

thanks every one.
my e-mail adress : soloestudy@gmail.com
Posted by cisco, Friday, 25 August 2006 1:48:25 PM
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Jean Jacques Rousseau expressed the view that the political ideals of a people evolve according to their experience. I seem to also recall his commenting that the Russian people were not ready for democracy.

I think that, in terms of common experience and hegemonic values, there are a lot of similarities between post-Czarist Russia and the environment in which Islam is flourishing now. And it also seems very true to say that these communities are not ready for democracy.

Perhaps people need to develop theories of common good before they can move out of an age of totalitarian rule. That would make sense - because until you form a social contract based on the principles of common good, any attempt at the establishment of the principles of individual rights which democracies such as ours espouse which will be viewed as an offer of 'license' - with a subsequent return to the 'survival of the fittest' and totalitarian rule, instead of 'freedom' (as Rousseau described it).
Posted by DizzyLizzy, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 1:17:31 AM
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DizzyLizzy, et.al.,

Islam is ready for change but not to democracy. There is no such understanding in (true) Islam. Theocracy under dictatorship is the order of the day.

The west may wish that democracy will happen one day and open up the way to meaningful dialogue - but the obvious movement of Islam is backward and not forward. "They" want to get back to 7th century tribal nomadic fundamentalism. This is were Islam started and therefore will have to stay - they claim.

Islam cannot change nor adapt to other ideologies. It's rules are supposed to be dictated by Allah - their god - and his prophet . And "only Allah knows better" they exclaim.

To compare Islam to Marxism is to give it more political and sociological merit that it really deserves. Islam is just a tribal concept that is growing with the sole objective of total domination. Social justice is not its priority - since they regard women as inferior to men - under the rule of Allah - and the blessing of Mohammad.
Posted by coach, Tuesday, 5 September 2006 8:54:22 AM
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