This man needs to be Institutionalized !

"Gideon Levy, who argues convincingly that if only Israel would give up on its territorial ambitions and be sensible enough to let go of land it is illegally occupying - West Bank, Golan Heights, Sheba Farms - then the rug would be pulled out from under Islamic extremism and the whole area could at last settle down to peaceful co-existence."

Clearly Levy has not read the HAMAS CHARTER article 11 which CLEARLY and UNMISTAKABLY outlines a 'No-Israel' vision of the region known as Israel/Palestine.

MARILYN you are not doing your credibility any good whatsover by pointing only to SYMPTOMS (30,000 children died today) rather than CAUSES.

CAUSE 1.

Human heart alientated from God. (some of you might dispute this, no problemo)

CAUSE 2. (based on cause 1)

Greed, Lust, Arrogance, Racism.

Those 2 major causes are expressed in political movements which destroy other people.
Marilyn, if I have a cough, the Quack checks my chest to see it there is a bacterial infection. If none, then it is a virus, and I have to wait it out.
You see the connection ? SYMPTOM.....CAUSE....

Sadly, many 'causes' such as our good debate killing friend "Adolph" and company required radical military surgery to remove his cancer-like grip on Europe.

Marilyn, looking back, can you see any other way of dealing with Hitler than massive military action ? I agree we didn't need to saturation Bomb Dresden, but that aside...... well ?

I leave you all with these echoing words from the past couple of days.

"Massive death on an unimaginable Scale" ....... (Airline Terror plot)

I recommend a visit by all to CourtRoom 3.3 at 250 William Street Melbourne any time over the next week or 2. It will be a revelation of apocalyptic proportions.

Just another Brick in the Wall

Yes, more blah blah about the rights of Israel and the wrongs of Hezbolah and like a misguided missile, altogether missing the point.

We are witnessing the carnage you have wrought on perfectly innocent men, women and children sanctioned by George Bush and Tony Blair, based on the very same argument put forward by Mr Rubinstein.

This is inexcusable.

There can be no justification whatsoever for what is happening and furthermore I find it personally offensive to read this dumb down drivel from these expensively educated and overly privilaged spin doctors. Is it not some some kind of Hezbolah recruitment drive?

Clearly the Israeli offensive massively underestimated the enemies capacity to respond in kind and has precipitated an even worse situation, with no end in sight.

These people are terrorists not necessarily directed by, or acting under the orders of any national government. By implicating Iran and Syria without conclusive evidence of culpability is reminiscent of the way Arafat was constantly held responsible for every bullet and bomb rendered on Israel by Hamas. No doubt, if he were still alive he would still be copping the blame.

The latest attempt to blow up aircraft over the Atlantic will no doubt be blamed on Islam and the persons arrested will be kept as long as possible without trial in order that we can be prevented from learning the truth. Al Quada is not a religion and terrorists are not necessarily religious fanatics but I expect this will not deter the propagandists pointing the finger and more innocents everywhere will sooner or later pay the price.

This affair can only end when somebody nukes their next door neighbour. So go on, peddle your propaganda and poison and let's see where it gets you.

Colin,

There is a bit of truth and lots of misleading comments in your article.
Here is a sample:

- Hezbollah runs guerrilla warfare of 3-5000 people in the bottom south of Lebanon and they are not an army, a known fact that guerrillas live inside cities with no offices or head quarters. One would think to fight it is to engage ground forces and comb the southern 30 miles of Lebanon. Why would Israel destroy all Lebanese airports, ports, bridges, sewage stations and displace 25% of the Lebanese population unless as Putin said it ‘they are pursuing a wider agenda’.

- At first glance it appears that Israeli forces panicked from their early casualties in the ground offensive and decided to pull back and use aerial bombs. But why would you expect that dumping +20 tons plus of bombs on a residential building will not harm civilians in surrounding buildings? You can’t be taken seriously if this is your assumption.

- Hezbollah in essence kidnapped 2 military personnel to negotiate releasing 20,000 prisoners plus held indefinitely in the Democratic republic of Israel. Can you explain why all these people are held and on what charges?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060807&articleId=2919

Being supportive of your cause should not mean you sit and justify wrong doings. Right now your credibility is biting the dust and Israeli actions is reflecting negatively on Jewish people.

Tassie, you seem to have a strong desire for truth...lets start with your post :)

You said: "By implicating Iran and Syria without conclusive evidence of culpability"

Iranian Missiles.
Iranian Soldiers captured.

Not good enough ?

Then you said:

"The latest attempt to blow up aircraft over the Atlantic will no doubt be blamed on Islam and the persons arrested will be kept as long as possible without trial in order that we can be prevented from learning the truth. Al Quada is not a religion and terrorists are not necessarily religious fanatics"

-They were all 'MUSLIMS'.
-Their inspiration came from a strong connection to 'PAKISTAN' (fact)
-and undoubtedly the Madrassah's there. (an educated guess on my part)
-They were motivated by so-called Western attacks on....ISLAM/Muslims.

Al Qaeda ? It would be difficult to find a MORE "Islamic" group than this. Your right, they are not "A Religion" but they are all dogmatic,fanatic,bigoted FOLLOWERS of and PROMOTERS of the religion of "ISLAM". They only 'exist' because of that religion.

I honestly am tempted to believe that most of those on the 'Left' of politics got their training from a long stint with the Jehovah's Witnesses. The level of reasoning and manner is about the same. They only give you a moment to speak so they can think up the next thing THEY want to say irrespective of what YOU have said to them.

This is a war with Islam (in its true form)

The example of the lefts 'JW' mentality is that they are already claiming the 13 terror suspects in custory are 'innocent' irrespective of the fact that the evidence has not even progressed past the 'committal hearing' stage. I saw THOUSANDS of pages of notes on the desk of the defense and prosecution. But hey....the left already know it all ? :)

'They only give you a moment to speak so they can think up the next thing THEY want to say irrespective of what YOU have said to them.'

The same can be said of some people who quote the old testament to justify positions held today.

Hummmmm now what was that you said about the OT, David?

FH,

On the whole the majority of Palestinian prisoner's are held either after they have been convicted of criminal offences, or whilst on remand awaiting trial for criminal offences. These offences range from theft, robbery, extortion, violent crimes, terrorism related offences and membership of terrorist organisations. Contrary to the argument put by the PA in recent times, none of these people are combatant's, as they wore no uniforms, carried no identification as a combatant, and made no attempt to target military targets, in fact on the whole they have attacked civilian targets.

There are also 1,000 or so who are held under administrative detention, similar to that used to house illegal immigrants in Australia, although the majority of those in this classification could be convicted of membership of a terrorist organisation. This administrative detention has not been criticised by the Israeli Supreme Court, although it has been by the International Court, which has no jurisdiction, which is a direct parallel to the position in Australia, where international law does not come into effect unless it is done through legislative enactment.

Given the behaviour of the UN's new Human Rights Committee, which was used to condemn Israel and praise Hizbollah, after being hijacked by the moslem states, I see no reason why International law will be accepted in Israel in the foreseeable future. In fact the behaviour of the Arab states was such as to destroy any prospect of this new body enjoying any legitimacy whatsoever in the future, especially when the condemnation is supported only by such freedom loving nations as:

1.Algeria
2.Azerbaijan
3.Bahrain
4.Bangladesh
5.China
6.Cuba
7.Indonesia
8.Jordan
9.Malaysia
10.Morocco
11.Pakistan
12.Russian Federation
13.Saudi Arabia
14.Senegal
15.South Africa
16.Tunisia

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=19450&Cr=Leban&Cr1

These freedom loving countries were justifiably upset at Israel defending itself, wonder why?

Inshallah

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