LAST WORD: "It seems clear to me that Muslims tend to exlude themselves from the wider community more so than other religious and secular groupings, with the exception of small religious sects."

=> What empirical evidence do you have for this? Can you show us concrete evidence based on studies to show that all 60 Muslim ethnic groups in Australia have excluded themselves from the rest of the community? I want to see evidence, not innuendo, guesswork or imbecilic articles from tabloid newspapers.

Sweet Jesus,

Costellos bloody twilight zone should never have been allowed to happen in the 1st place. Muslims have never coexisted with anyone anywhere in the world 4 any length of time , simpley not commpatible with anyone anywhere and especially not the skips.

Irfan relays assaults on muslim targets around the western world after London Bombings. That is not assaulting muslim targets. If the perpetrators started dragging the ummah out of the Mosques in all western countries and flogged them as the ummah would do to the infidel then perhaps that would be assault. The cartoon rage thats assault. I for one do not believe that Islam has yet witnessed extremism among the average infidel yet.

A couple of Afghans leading camel trains thru the desert does not constitute a muslim presence in this country. Dont ever forget you and yours are here at the host infidels invitation period. Its too late to shut the gate after the horse has bolted and you no it. Muslims the world over are a parasitic plague enveloping other cultures and devouring them and the same will undoubtably happen here.

Irfan open any newspaper in any country in the world and I guarantee that all the big stories will be about muslims doing what muslims do, spreading its violent tentacles around the world Only one religion preaches violence.

NO TABOULI

One thing all the leaders in the Middle East conflict have in common is the absolute belief that God is on his side. Obviously, more than one leader is delusional as God can't be on all sides at once.I think God has left the building.

Irfan, good article mate. May thousands more Muslims migrate to this country over the coming decades. It’s in dire need of people of substance.

Irfy

Since the London bombings things appear a bit grey for security services in the Western world.

Times have been relatively tough for ASIO since the November 2005 arrests of alleged homegrown terrorists in Sydney and Melbourne.
- "Jihad" Jack (though well and truly al Qaeda connected) got off with 5 years
- Lodhi's case appears homegrown, the physical evidence is quite compelling and he's been found guilty but he is unlikely to get a maximum sentence.

Attempts to head off subsequent 7/7 (London bombing) style scenarios have led to one dead Brazilian and too many seemingly ill considered arrests of internet "chat room terrorists" in the UK, Canada and the US recently. In these cases their main crime appeared to be chatting on the internet about the idea of bombing something perhaps utilising publicly available formulas.

Written internet chatting (a relatively new medium) may look like compelling evidence but what people type away may not necessarily be considered thought indicating actual intention.

If they are Muslims this has appeared to be sufficient to launch anti terror intelligence then arrest operations against them.

Re Australia’s November 2005 arrests – yes they were Muslim and there was the UK precedent still resounding 4 months previously…but we'll see.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com

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Irfan,

Even when I say something nice about you in my penultimate paragraph, you throw a fit of the ‘Muslims’.

In response to what I think are questions – even though nothing an infidel like me could say would ever satisfy you – a) Islam was allowed to become established here by Australian governments who could, if they wished, not allow it. And, despite what you say, some governments ARE “in the business of stopping any religion from being established” viz., countries where governments are dominated by your religion!

b) I am talking about all Muslims. I am aware of the blah about ‘x’ number of countries, ‘x’ numbers of languages and dialects etc., and I still mean all Muslims.

c) If you are referring to English and Irish assimilating with the aboriginal culture, you have really lost the plot: are you suggesting that we should have gone backwards by 30,000 years, or are you suggesting that people like you would be regressing if you assimilated with us? And, the host culture of any country has the moral authority to insist that newcomers assimilate.

Unfortunately, there is no political party with the morality or guts to assert the right in Australia because they are too lily livered to withstand the likes of you and those of your ilk and arrogance who would call them ‘xenophobic’ as you called me in following the Lowenstein gibberish