Part One

Here we seem to be caught up in the old controversy about freedom of choice - which in history as regards Christianity was finally partly solved by one of our most famous Christians as well as one of our greatest Western philosophers, St Thomas Aquinas.

It was Aquinas who accepted precepts of Ancient Greek philosophy introduced to the West by Islamic students. Apparently Aquinas had already decided that Christianity had to be lifted out of the doleful period we now know as the Dark Ages. Thus it came about that Christian faith became tempered with Aristotelian Reason, which not only greatly influenced the Rennaissance with thoughts more of earthly progress besides an afterlife, but which also gave great impetus to science and the Age of Reason followed by the the Age of Enlightenment-then into the exciting but problematic Democratic Age we are living in now - sensible reason, according to sociologists having become replaced once again with the crude animalistic doctrine of the survival of the fittest.

It was Darwin himself who died condemning former compatriots like Herbert Spencer and Walter Bagehot for helping to form what we now know as Darwinian Socialism, which not only gave more impetus to an already rampant colonialism later proven by the British invasion of South Africa and American imperial adventures into the Spanish possessions on both sides of the Pacific, as well as capturing Hawai.

Further, it was the so-called Darwinistic survival of the fittest concept which historians say not only helped begin WW1, but after Versaille, the angry revival of the Germanic Wermacht, giving sanction to Hitler to give command for all the horrendous Nazi Germanic atrocities of WW2.

How impressive it was for America and her victorious allies to forgive the German people for following the fanatical Hitler, gifting them with the Marshall Plan, along with Japan. Also ridding the world of Soviet Stalinism placing the US by then in the global academy award status

Part Two

Unfortunately, corporate greed and hegemon has now trapped the US like a huge fester, as it has trapped Britain, as well as Australia, and has really trapped us in Iraq. Like the blind leading the blind, our leaders have been too blind to see that corporatism is really nothing new, as proven by the East India Company which finally gained control of the whole of Ceylon.

Simply the economies of scale, as Adam Smith knew all about, play along carefully and you will have the lot. But it was Adam Smith who warned to remember you are dealing with people, who as a social philosopher thought also about the proletariat as part of his Wealth of Nations.

Maybe Bill Gates is another one who thinks about people, though some say he will get back more than he gives away - though he at least gives indication how with corporatism most of the wealth will rise to the top like junket does to milk.

But after thousands of years, as Darwin made clear before he died. For humans, we surely should have found a kinder and more compassionate way to live our lives different to the animals.

The point is, even through the ballot box, with economic rationalism and corporate power mesmerising both sides of government, we lower ranks have now lost the license to make the choice?

"It is of the nature of evil that it is always presented as the good." IN this case the Chinese Communist party regime

REPORT INTO ALLEGATIONS OF ORGAN HARVESTING OF
FALUN GONG PRACTITIONERS IN CHINA

by David Matas (former Canadian Member of Parliament)
and David Kilgour (Renowned Human Rights Lawyer)

http://investigation.redirectme.net/

“Based on what we now know, we have come to the regrettable conclusion that the allegations are true. We believe that there has been and continues today to be large scale organ seizures from unwilling Falun Gong practitioners.”

Mr. Matas called the report's revelations "a form of evil we have yet to see on this planet...a new form of evil," and something very hard to believe, like the Holocaust.
This is the first comprehensive independent investigation on the organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners in China. It was reported in almost all Canadian media’s headline yesterday.



my comment is ;

If the CCP wont let investigators in to investigate all labour camps and hospitals 610 offices, if the CCP cannot prove to us that 40,000 organ transplant operations were performed between 2001-2005 and that these numbers do not add up to executed prisoners and any other list of so called consenting donors, then apart from finding the tactile evidence of 40,000 bodies without organs which is impossible because all the bodies have been disposed of in an incinerator then there is only one conclusion based on all the evidence presented in that report.

This Genocide is caused by the biggest evil on the planet today the communist regime and has encouraged VIP’s and those in power to turn a blind eye to the evil in favour of business with China. This is the real battle of good and evil.

Only by supporting Truth, compassion and forbearance the highest principles of the universe can humanity survive this evil. Only evil would persecute Truth compassion and tolerance. So this is a battle between evil and good that will be won by Falun Gong and all those who support truth compassion and forbearance.

Scout,w et al

You lot seem so proud of your ability to make up your own mind as to what is freedom, what is good, what is moral "outside of the constraints of formal religion.." And you disparage anyone who professes a faith as a cripple needing a crutch.

You abuse Peter as being a rabid bible basher who is pushing his view into your face. Why are you so anxious and abusive? He puts a reasoned case that appears to any reasonable person to flow from knowledge, experience and reflection.

The point is the society in which you are free to express and live your wonderful self autonomyous moral profile is underpinned by Christian social formation, across all continents and cultures. You are picking the flowers of the great humanisation project that has crossed millenia and began with the call of Abraham, yet you and your co-travellers over the last few hundred of Enlightened years are pissing on its roots. We are already seeing the petals fade and scent turn sour in our social directions and expressions.

Scout, w et al, if you seek truth you would be better informed - from multiple sources and disciplines. Your use of words such as reason freedom and tolerance are so clumsy, and meaningless. Yet this is the path for the one without roots and story and goal and purpose.

I do not read Peter as a preacher. He is simply asserting a truth worth commiting to, as a foundation. Whether you seek to build on it is your choice. It is personal to you. Take it or leave it. At least it is a choice

It seems that every time Peter Sellick publishes another article a hundred knees jerk simultaneously and the result is the repetitious postings of Alchemist, Pericles, W and Scout and others. Indeed I sometimes wonder if they have actually done more than scan the article in a few seconds before hitting the keyboard.

Peter is denigrating not choice but the idolisation of choice! The theme is that wise choice is made on the basis of a firm commitment, allegiance or devotion to something enduring, something more profound than momentary whim or infantile greed. For Peter the something is the trinitarian God, but his text does not assert that everyone should hold the same faith.

Peter’s last paragraph sums it up: “Whenever you come across someone who proclaims the glory of choice as an isolated good in itself, be aware that you are in the presence of a salesman and that you are about to have the wool pulled over your eyes.”

The article is written by a follower of Christ using the frame of reference he knows best; it does not set out to preach the superiority of Christian belief, nor to condemn those who do not subscribe to Christian beliefs.

Boxgum, being proud can be taken in varying ways, I prefer to call it being humble, accepting and responsible with the freedom of choice evolution offers us. Your ilk persist in forcing morals ( a monotheistic concept), whilst I believe, non believers follow planetary ethics, as followed by all rational living things.

Your right, the society we live in reflects Christian values, something we wish to remove, to attain peace and sanity. What we're seeing is a dying mythological illusion (god), desperately trying to instil fear and damnation into those able to decide their own direction and beliefs.

Bd, hill song is no different to previous forefront churches, they use the times for control, so restricting choice by deception. As with all christian history, it's just repetitious. The problem monotheism faces, is the unknowing, gullible and irresponsibles numbers are diminishing, as choice opens up to all the worlds peoples.

Mark Richardson, “the higher things, the things of quality, which make your life significant.”

Its the peace we find when we've the choice to choose our direction in life. Its being able to be confident in who you are, understanding of difference and humble in your dealings with the world, but never submissive. Taoists may call it passive resistance. Choice allows you to never have an ending, nor an answer but always a possible choice.

When you have no choice in your belief, you have no choice in your understanding, your limited to the choice determined by your belief, which is singular. Without a formed, or reliance on a belief your able to investigate unlimited avenues of choice, giving you knowledge, understanding and increasing your avenues of choice.

Bd, “We are merely 'signposts' on the road of life. “

Sadly those sign posts lead to the choice of fearful suppression or suppressed fear.