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The wider significance of soccer : Comments

By Tanveer Ahmed, published 3/7/2006

Soccer can cross ethnic groups and social classes, sprouting a nationalism across society.

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reality check average attendance A league soccer 11,000 grand final 42,000 AFL average attendance 35,000 grand final 90,000. The Swan have had more to a normal game then attended the soccer grand final.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 3 July 2006 12:48:28 PM
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Multiculturalism in Australia has certainly been successful if success means the introduction of alien cultures intent on remaining alien. Laws and scare campaigns from the multiculturalists have just about succeeded in making real the myth that there has never been an Australian culture. We are now Anglo-Saxons or Anglo-Celts: just one of many cultures contributing to Australia. Forget that there was an Australian culture in the 19th century that laid the foundations, institutions, laws and freedoms all ready for immigrants to benefit from when they arrived.

Not much tolerance and respect there for Australian culture.

Now the push is on to finish the job through sport, removing more of Australian culture to cater for the ‘ethnic’ tastes. More respect!

But, who ever said that Australia should be respected? We allowed multiculturalism to happen. Our politicians know that we are not interested in things that really matter. We got what we deserved. Your idea to finish off the job through sport is a jolly good one from the point of view of those who want to change Australia beyond recognition. Our pro-multicultural politicians of all shades love to identify with sport – even the ludicrously unlikely Prime Minister; remember that embarrassing attempt at bowling? (My apologies for mentioning non-ethnic cricket)

The pathetic hysteria – mostly caused by alcohol – during Australia’s failed attempt at this peculiar game indicates that you are on to a winner. People who can get excited about sport don’t have the brains to care too much about anything else. This obsession with sport is most certainly “negative” and “anti-intellectual”. But only “some” Australians, as you say, see it that way. Not enough of us to worry about. Some of us also see that this sporting mania leaves an intellectual vacuum in Australia which allows devious politicians to force on us such crap policies as multiculturalism, lowering of educational standards, dual citizenship, foreign workers, and all of the other nonsense wrecking Australia. What more could you and you fellow multiculturalists wish for?

Give us big screen TV and an endless supply of VB, and she’ll be right mate
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 3 July 2006 2:12:10 PM
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BB Part One

As a an oldie who has always been an Aussie Rules freak who regarded looking at soccer as worse than the waiting for the proverbial grass to grow. But taking more note of the footwork, heading and so forth from both soccer sides during the World Cup, one kind of forgot about goal scores, and gained great interest in the ball-skills, etc.

Furthermore, one was reminded how world soccer revives an interest that is really nothing new among social historians, that competitive sport generally should be an opportune way of creating better fellowship between nations It was even talked about in the late 1930s with German Nazism well on the go, and even there were suggestions that the Berlin games might ward off war. But of course they did not, far from it, only proving a show-off for the verbal and parade-power of the Nazi Reichstag.

But certainly there is that about playing with a soccer-ball that is different. To be sure, because it is a round ball of measured size and weight that suits the average instep, it is the ideal ball for kids to kick around, and the ideal shape and size for poor native kids to do the tricks they love to learn in order to prove themselves - not so much show-pony stuff like with us whites, but a genuine means of gaining a spirit that is so much needed to replace the ability to handle a machete or an AK-47
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 3 July 2006 6:53:30 PM
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BB Part Two
There is also among those who have grown tired of cries of freedom and democracy not so much from non-whites, but from the wealthiest of US whites as if the shown proof that they are wealthy is really the way to go for freedom for backward nations.

It would be so interesting to really probe deep into the mind of Shirin Ebadi an Iranian practising Attorney of Law, who though unpopular because she is always on about Iran becoming more democratic, her democracy must be very unlike that of America, because she regards the US as the country which barged in during the early 1950s mostly for oil, as if her former land of Persia was some waiting-to-be-annexed backwater or suchlike.

So maybe Americana which has been running downhill in popularity ever since its wonderful gifting of the Marshall Plan, might turn totally to soccer instead of gridiron football - and in so doing might discover the style of democracy that Shirin Ebadi talks about and indeed what the new American Superman is on about - which they say is not by a long chalk the old American way, but right now what all the world’s discerning anti-Americans really wish for
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 3 July 2006 7:01:05 PM
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Soccer has to smarten up refereeing by using the video ref at crucial moments in the game.It is all to easy for a single decision in such a low scoring game to be determined by the bias or blindness of the ref.What is the point of having a flowing game when the end result is so dubious and soul destroying?

We need to also make the frequency of scoring higher to get fairer results and reduce the anger and tension in the crowd.This is one of the reasons why soccer crowds are so violent.Over 150 yrs,goal keepers have got taller and more professional however the goal posts have stayed constant.Penalties should also be taken further out to make scoring a 25% chance,rather than 95% chance.

FIFA is locked in a time warp of tradition and can learn a lot from the evolution of Australian Sports.Lets hope this match fixing criminal behaviour involving Italy's four top clubs makes FIFA think about the evolution of it's game.

I don't want to watch another FIFA refereeing farce at the next world cup.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 3 July 2006 7:07:19 PM
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Memo to Tanveer: what's with the gaping chip on your shoulder?

Did you have a bad experience at Ballymore or something, Tanveer? I haven't been to a rugby match in Queensland for a long time but the last time I did, rather than '...sipping wine, peering occasionally towards the electronic scoreboard' or talking about shares, I was sitting on the Hill, with a can of coke and a sausage roll.

Sadly the chip on the shoulder's still alive and well when considering the mullet factor at league matches - come join us Queenslander expats in a smart pub in the Sydney CBD on Wednesday night and I'm guessing the ugg boot count will take place on one hand.

But the pearler was cricket - basically its crime is that its too Anglo for new arrivals and 'remote'. Tell that to its followers all over the Commonwealth - which makes up a third of the planet. And I don't understand the non-Anglo complaint that Australia's British heritage is 'remote'. How can it be when it is part of pretty much every part of Australian life? It's not something ossified, but an every day reality. A NESB elderly parent who migrated under the family reunion scheme is as much an beneficiary of this heritage as a sixth-generation Anglo-Australian.

I cheered on the Socceroos along with everyone else - but I didn't feel a need to knock other codes and sports because of hangups.
Posted by Alexander Drake, Monday, 3 July 2006 10:20:01 PM
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