Well it seems to me that the States got their extra GST dollars and just grew the bureauracy.According to Janet Albrechsten of the Australian we have a ratio of 1:17 public servants per head of pop compared to New Zealand which has a ratio of 1:58 We have three times the number of PS per head of pop compared to NZ.

There would be plenty of money for pensions,health and infrastucture if our Govts maintained the discipline.Your future fund exists solely for the benefit of Public servant's superannuation.We the tax payer have to find $140 billion in the next fifteen years to fund their super which should have been funded on and annual basis.

The collective Govt waste of our Federal and State Govts is mind boggling.

Morris Iemma laments the loss of a few billion because the Snowy Mts Scheme won't be flogged off in a fire sale.Well if they had the discipline and not grow the PS ,there would have been billions for health and infrastructure.They have 380 000 in the PS and just 50,000 fewer would save them at least $3 billion per yr in wages not to mention their generous super entitlements.

It is about time that all levels of Govt looked at their waste,uncontrolled and unsustainable expansion.

I think we are living in fools paradise of a resources boom and all levels of Govt need to rein in their excesses.

Motion carried! (The "grub" is Tony "Capitalism is a fancy word for freedom" Abbott, right?).
MOTION CARRIED! The grub is ordered to crawl away and die alone.

Should Tony like the other Howard Government Ministers on The Forum be known as Hit and Run?

They came in hit us with BS and then run.