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Decoding the Code : Comments

By Bill Muehlenberg, published 19/5/2006

The Bible is light years ahead of 'The Da Vinci Code' for both adventure and startling claims.

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The relavence of exact hours or dates is not important, as it deals with history. What is important is the message. The message was brought together in the acts of the Teacher. The message is demonstrated in character, attitudes, actions, behaviours, and wisdom. Jesus as with James method of teaching was with illustrations and action images. Jesus lived what he taught not seeking a history. His folowers were intended to be the new history in every generation.

He moved locally among perhaps 30,000 people and made little contact with Roman officials. Though he healed a Roman Centurion's daughter and was crucified by Roman guards along with many dissent Jews. His immediate impact was very local and only spanned less than three years. It was after his death that many realised the real impact of his life.

Skepticism, conspiracy and hostility do not draw us closer to ideal relationships in human behaviour, and all this over a difference in history. God is the God of the present the God of the now living. How is God reflected in our behaviour. Life is empty unless finding fulfilment in character, attitudes and behaviours that bless others.
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Roman Rulers
*Julius Caesar was stabbed to death by Republicans 44BC
*Mark Anthony Caesar’s co-consul and Octavian Caesar’s grandnephew and heir formed an alliance with Caesar’s top lieutenant Lepidus and overthrew the Republicans in 42 BC
*Octavian gained supremacy over Anthony 31 BC after it was discovered Anthony has bequeathed all of Rome’s Eastern territories to Cleopatra.
*Augustus Caesar adopted son of Julius conferred with power 27 BC establishes the Roman Empire died 14 AD
*JESUS BORN during Augustus time Luke 2: 1.
*Tiberius 14 37 AD
*Claudius 41 – 54 AD Paul establishes Churches during his time Acts 11: 28; 18: 2.
*Nero 54 – 68 Caesar during Paul’s time in Rome.
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Posted by Philo, Sunday, 21 May 2006 9:07:42 PM
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Christianity rises to the top when you earnestly investigate the other theories, philosophies, movements and religions of the world. Yes, as hard as it is to hear in our pluralistic world community, Christianity is different than all the others. That may sound terribly dogmatic and narrow-minded, but the simple truth is that Christianity is the only true religion.

Christianity: Why Believe It’s the Only Way
Christianity is not based upon evidence...but it is backed by evidence. Obviously anyone could “claim” to be God. The difference with Jesus is that His life completely backed those claims. Check out the history, check out the claims – it’s an absolutely phenomenal study.

A primary focus for your study is that Jesus fulfilled over 300 messianic prophecies written in the Old Testament scriptures. With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the reliability of the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, both of which have been proven to exist prior to the time Jesus walked on the earth, you can be assured that these prophecies were not “conspired” after-the-fact. They were truly fulfilled by the Messiah, Jesus Christ. Examine the probability of one man fulfilling just a handful of the most specific prophecies, and you’ll be amazed. “And He [Jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning Me.” Luke 24:44

Focus study is to understand what Jesus said and did as a historical figure. No legitimate scholars today will deny that Jesus lived about 2,000 years ago, was a great teacher and doer of good works, and that he was crucified on a Roman cross for the crime of blasphemy among the Jews. The only dispute is whether Jesus rose from the dead three days after his crucifixion and that He was, in fact, God incarnate. This is where everyone must test the evidence for the resurrection, examine their hearts, and make a decision about who Jesus really was
Posted by dobbadan, Sunday, 21 May 2006 9:20:30 PM
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Palestine Rulers
*Antipater - Herod' son ruled from 37 – 4 BC Jesus was born 4 BC during his time Matthew 2, Luke 1: 5. Known as King Herod the Great.
*The kingdom was divided among his sons Herod Archelaus who ruled Judea and Samaria Matthew 2: 22. Deposed in 6 AD and area was placed under direct Roman rule with procurators subject to governor of Syria.
*Galilee and other territories continued ruled by Herods. Antipas 4 BC to AD 39 Matthew 14.
*Herod Agrippa died 44 AD Acts 12 and his son Herod Agrippa II reunited the land of Palestine Acts 25 – 26.
*Pilate was procurator in 26 – 36 and it was during this time that Jesus was crucified.
*Paul in prison appeals to procurators Felix and Festus Acts 23 – 26.

The family of Herod
*In 63 BC Pompey appointed a priest named Hyrcanus to rule Galilee, Judea, and Peraea.
* Hyrcanus used his power to have his sons Phasael and Herod as Governors and when Antipater was murdered in 43 BC they succeeded jointly to leadership under their father.
*Phasael became the victim of a Parthian raid that followed the assassination of Julius Caesar.
*Herod escaped to Rome and impressed Octavian that he received mandate to recover Palestine - he did in 39 and 36 BC. He carried on as the pro-Roman administrator for 34 years, building the port in Caesarea and the temple to Augustus at Samaria.

*The Jews hated Herod because of his Edomite blood, but he managed to pacify them by building the Great temple in Jerusalem. He was Herod during the birth of Jesus who authorised death to boys born intended to be king of the Jews as planed by Zecharias the father of John the Baptist and protector of Mary. He then ordered the death of Zecharias murdered at the altar when he would not disclose the whereabouts of the boys. At that time Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt with the children and Elizabeth and baby John fled to the caves of the Essenes community.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 21 May 2006 9:28:09 PM
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Getting back to what this blog was about. Bill's article sought to highlight a handful of the errors in Brown's story. He also pointed out that this story seeks to undermine the foundations of Christianity (i.e. the centrality and deity of Jesus Christ).

This blog has accused those who believe in Jesus Christ as their saviour of believing in an unsubstantiated lie or a work of erroneous fiction. I dare say that anyone who puts merit in Brown's work would be in the same boat.

To those out there who've tried this tact, let me tell you that this falls far short of actually offending or disturbing a real Christian.

Perhaps I have a kind of a "don't knock it until you've tried it" attitude towards faith in Jesus Christ. Please note that I said "faith in Jesus Christ", and not "Christianity".

There's something heart-warming about 'knowing the truth'. I'm sure any Christians out there who read this post will know exactly what I'm talking about. To someone who has actually asked Jesus to be their saviour, the words of the Bible and the testimony of history only add substance to their faith. Yet, even without such 'proof' the truth of 'knowing' Jesus - I mean 'really' knowing Jesus - is enough to stand up to any attack. I think Jesus himself had something to say about building your house on solid rock, and not on sinking sand.

The truth of Jesus Christ is far too intense and challenging for those who do not believe. The implications of his life and ministry are enough to shake any person's world to the ground. But don't worry, you can create a really comfortable world for yourself by living in 'unbelief' - and stories like the one concocted by Dan Brown work wonders for maintaining such an existence.
Posted by Faithful, Sunday, 21 May 2006 11:09:33 PM
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The DVC has not phased me or some Christians I know as we have a faith in Him that cannot be moved because we love Him have experienced Him in many ways and will never be moved.
This book of fiction DVC will not stand the time ,it is nothing compared with the Word of God ,The Bible.
The only thing that should offend anyone who has a lover ,wife ,kids,or someone they love very much is that someone could actually name that person in a book whether fictious or not as a liar and adulterer,conman ,a phoney ,etc.
This is Jesus Christ the sinless,One came down from Heaven to save mankind from a sinful life to die sinless .
What an insult to Him God in the flesh.
Jesus often quoted the Old Testament prophesies and words and as God He could not lie .
Also before the skeptics start mocking this ,I ask you to think ,as you have not experienced what I and many Christians have ,you have not seen my past or know where i have come from . But God has and loves me and all mankind who seek His will and forgiveness.
Posted by dobbadan, Sunday, 21 May 2006 11:45:56 PM
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Now let's see.... the early heresies were:

Gnosticism
Neo Platonism
Nestorianism
Arianism
Manicheism
Marcionism
Montanism
Donatists
Pelagianism

but not in any of them was there:

"Jesus_married_Mary_and_had_a_baby"-ism

Nope..we had to wait for Dan Brown 2000 yrs later to figure that one out :)

The real/true Church is not in the slightest bit concerned over the DaVinci code, because the real Church is not worried about losing the ability to fund priests or beaurocracies or huge insitutions.. nope..its concerned with being more like Christ, and following in humble discipleship.

Of course the 'true' church is the one I belong to :) (don't u love this)... it's just that interdonominational no name mob in every tradition who happen to believe in Christ.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 22 May 2006 6:41:11 AM
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