And I might add Mickijo, there is no 400-page report from Amnesty International on the disgusting way we treat our own homeless mentally ill people. Seems like the locals don't rate.

Wouldn't that be a sign of a fascist organisation in the making. I mean isn't fascism oppressive, dictatorial control? Isn't AI trying to control which group will be the subject of a 400-page report and which group won't? Why don't Australia's homeless and mentally ill people matter?

At the risk of being subject to Marilyns stinging rebukes such as "You don't care"... or "Badddddd Christian" I'll live dangerously and take the plunge yet again to delve into this issue.

Firstly Marilyn, I feel ur too close to this issue emotionally to see the big picture. Take a year off, then after some reflection, you might see it in a more balanced manner.

Also, see this video, http://media.putfile.com/Corolla35 please all have a look at this.

and pay specific attention to:

a) The ethnicity of the attackers
b) Their nominal religion
c) Why did 'this' sub group of a larger generally peaceful and well adjusted ethnic group react like this ?
d) Does this say something about social compatability of this background for Australia ? (irrespective of them being born here)

Then, consider if this outcome could have been avoided by a better planned more controlled refugee intake which had the associated controls of avoiding ghettos.

Unfortunately, ghetto avoidance is almost impossible, because large extended families (compounded by polygamous marriages producing LARGGGE family re-union potential)
want to stick together geographically as well as socially.

A woman went to Jesus once and began using some very expensive ointment to anoint his feet. The disciples criticized her “Why was this not sold and given to the poor” ? Jesus responded “You will always have the poor with you, you will not always have me, she is preparing my body for burial”

Even if you (Marilyn) had the energy and effort of a 100 mother Theresa’s the ‘refugees’ will still be with us.

For our part, as Australians, we must also give consideration to the social, demographic,political and cultural impact of people coming to this land.

If we do not, the above video shows clearly, that we will end up BEING or at least experiencing a vast refugee problem in our own country.

Do you want to be hunted down like a dog and bashed with an iron bar by 50 thugs of a particular ethno/religious background, just because of your white skin ? I sure don’t.

'Migrant teenagers are sexually assaulting young girls or getting caught up in violent clashes within a few weeks of arrival because they don't know how to behave in their adopted society, youth experts have warned. Many foreign teenagers had a misguided view of consent, mistakenly believing that the way Western girls dress justifies sexual attacks.Two years ago a city based legal centre was flooded with young refugees aged between 16/18 defending rape and assault charges soon after thay had arrived.'
Quoted from a daily paper.
A Youth Legal Service spokesperson said, "It is understandable , given where they have come from."
So who is going to protect Australian girls? Or do THEY have to adapt to how new comers consider proper clothing?So they do not get raped and assaulted for outraging a new comer's views on modesty.
Australia is quickly being sent back to the dark ages because of wrong migration.

I take it, then, that old mate Maz would like 4,000 new illegals begging in her neighbourhood? We have enough parkies around here. I, personally, don't want any more.

What exactly about the treatment of illegal immigrants is traumatic? I am generally interested to know.

Golly Oto, there are no such thing as illegal immigrants in
Australia, you have confused us with someone else. It has been legal since 1992 to enter and remain in Australia without a visa, go ask the High court to read you the law.

Anyway, the argument is ridiculous when we consider that over 5 million people come to Australia every year and you have not noticed.

Actually I have had two pieces of good news this week that make me untouchable even by DB and his lunacy.

1. The "genuine" document as compared to the phoney document used to "prove" that Ali Bakhtiyari is a Pakistan bear little resemblence to each other. The original is properly translated finally and the signature is in the name of Asghar Ali and is written in Urdu - Ali can barely write his name in Dari.

Ergo, the whole thing was a hideous scam.

2. An Iraqi christian friend who spent 1 year locked up in Woomera, spent the next 4.5 years as a temporary person without the right to family reunion, another year as a permanent resident without his family will have his wife and two adult kids here on Wednesday.

Great joy to everyone who has learned to love this committed and decent doctor who has been offered little but trauma by this nation.

Oto I suggest you have a read of the HREOC report on www.humanrights.gov.au called "A Last Resort" to find out what happens to children in those jails.

Well.. Marilyn can now join Irfan in the "you are armchair nazi's and lunatics" club, M.. don't you know that personal abuse does your argument no good ?

As for Baktiari, I don't recall claiming he 'is' a Pakistani, I have claimed that he had employment in Pakistan, and hence could not be classified as a genuine refugee or assylum seeker.. I think thats 'game/set/ match'.

Did you view the video ? your silence on that was deafening.

You are still needing serious counselling on the 'big picture' and I emphasise that you definitely need to separate yourself emotionally from this obsession you have allowed to become your raison d'être for life.

Strange as it might seem, there are actually a large number of existing Australians here, who have struggles and needs. They have a sense of powerlessness over change to their culture and society, and they view the likes of you as an agent of change who is against their interests.

Again, we always must consider the culture, religion and political background/proclivity of people coming to this country irrespective of what a 1000 nicely worded warm fuzzy documents might say about 'total absense of discrimination'

Just like we had a 'white australia' policy, our Indigenous people had a 'black Australia' policy, they just didn't have the military resources to enforce it.

'White' Australia was misguided, and used as a synonym for 'compatable'. I don't view skin color as a symbol of compatability, but I sure do view other issues in that light.

Controlled compassion will have the outcome of social and cultural stability and produce a durable society not racked by ethnic trouble such as contained on that Video (Did anyone see it ?)

The idea that we should all get over ourselves and accept all and sundry is as sane as trying to reason with a fox in a chicken pen about the evils of killing chickens.

It hasn't worked for any place I know of yet......