There is nothing that America can do to make Muslims happy, so lets not waste our time. If Israel would vanish off the map, the Muslims would still hate us.

What American (and Europe and Australia, for example) should do is be honest with Muslims. Our leaders must stop this stupid policy of PC talk and tell Muslims the truth about the hate and anger in Islam, and the often vile, evil life of Muhammad.

That would be a good day in my opinion. I wonder if the Pope is getting ready to do this.. Did anyone see his recent calls that Islam respect other religions?

John Kactu

K: The only hate I see is your own. Outdone only by your ignorance.

strewth if kactuz if full of ignorance and hate how would you give the fastes growing religious set in the world respect for other religins when there so lead by the past.

"Captan": How about a basic literacy course before your next post?

sorrey about that mate. I'm not being rude I would just like to know how you think the world should go about getting respect out of islam for other religions . for no more then just to see were your coming from

Now Strewth, why would the Ummah need anyone to show them the lead.

Even a cursory scanning of the media would show there are truckloads of criticism & ridicule of the west’s position in the Middle East (& other places). And a lot of it is coming from the guiding lights of the Ummah & their fellow travelers in the west.
-so it seems they are not shy
-and it seems they are not lost for words.
It only seems they have inhibitions when it comes to criticizing their fellow Muslims.
It’s a case of “we see no evil, hear no evil & talk no evil’ about our own brethren.


You see the Ummah’s guiding lights are not committed to principles of Justice & Fairness -when dealing with outsiders – but skillfully use such slogans –to play naïve westerners- when it serves to further their own ends. The formula that best describes their approach is:
Where they are in the subordinate position –they are aspiring democrats –bleating about injustice
Where they are in the dominant position they are authoritarian –suppressing all deviation.

Their concern for the plight of the Palestinians stems more from a sort of tribalism which seeks to support its own brethren, than commitment to higher principles.Which is why they show no corresponding concern for the non-Muslims suffering much worse oppression under Islamic societies,throughout the world.

If the Ummah, and in particular (Indonesian based) Muhammadiyah, has a genuine commitment to Justice they would start by cleaning up their own backyard. First there’s the plight of the (Christian & Animist) West Irianese – whose story has all the features of Palestine, you have “Occupied Territories” you have the brutalizing of civilians by military & police, and you have a “unresolved issue of…nationalism”
Then you have the plight of Christian minorities in Sulawesi & Ambon with rape, beheadings forced conversion