This debate has been going for 5 years and still the savages have not moved one step forward in their nonsense.

Shoot them out of the water and drown them? Really? Babies and children too do you think? How about the Iraqi and Afghan people shoot all our invaders in their nations and call it border protection? No? Really? And why not? We went with bombs, guns and bullets to destroy the very same people the Afghans and Iraqis had escaped from.

Not one other nation on earth automatically locks up people just because they come on boats so why do we? What's that? They are the first people in history to come to Australia on boats? Really? I guess my families all swam here, as did all of yours.

Actually David got one thing quite wrong. Refugees do have the absolute right to choose where they go - to the first country that has SIGNED THE REFUGEE CONVENTION AND HAS LAWS TO PROTECT REFUGEES.

Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and others have not and we have.

I see it is the turn of the omniscient Father Holdcroft of the Jesuit Refugee Service who must now berate and hector us about refugees and asylum shoppers. I wonder if the Jesuits have a 'homeless Australian youth' service. What about a Jesuit respite service for the carers who are saving the Australian taxpayers an absolute squillion? Those carers have their own 'refugees' and 'asylum seekers' to whom they provide sanctuary and care. Why doesn't the church move in and help out.

Our own high court has ruled it legal to detain refugees and asylum shoppers and found that our elected government in so doing offends no laws. Here is a chance to replace the 'razor wire' and 'hot desert concentration style' detention centre with an idyllic tropical island where walks with wildlife would palliate a previous life of oppression and deprivation. No need for psychiatrists and no need for crayons for children to draw a 'treeless' barren Woomera landscape. But it's still not good enough. What are we to do; order the top 20 floors of the Sheraton on the Park to be vacated and ensconce asylum shoppers and refugees there.

Father Holdcroft says all stages of the processing of claims should be subject to scrutiny. Mr and Mrs Carty would welcome that. It was a group of refugees that butchered their son. Does the refugee industry accept any responsibility for that? Should we admit potential killers just to please the Jesuits?

And the reason we are not under the threat of "mass influx" is because of our beefed up illegal entry legislation. In the UK where a catch-and-release policy is applied, 20 000 failed asylum shopper remain at large.

Father Holdcroft should study his religion's Byzantinesque tenets to help him understand tough rules and regulations. Priests to remain celibate and other harsh rules are applied by the Roman Catholic church and those rules have to be obeyed. Some rules put in place by our federal government are tough but should be obeyed.

Lol Marilyn. 'No other nation' Actually, I bet there are few who would, but the refugee's know that so they don't bother trying and mores the case, they countries aren't ones they want to live in anyways.

Cut the pointless rhetoric and people might listen to you more.

BOAZ,
If

1.Detention is extended due to disputed findings and
2.the majority of applicants are being found to be bona-fide after all

then wouldn’t this suggest there is a problem with the initial assessment and THAT is what is causing the protracted delay?

Isn’t it also reasonable to assume that the Government could deliberately delay the procedure in the hope that applicants will give up and leave? (As it often does in the Court system).

If you were in the same situation and you knew you were right, would you give up so easily?

Hey wobbles, BOAZ_David and hasbeen are right.

These foreign terrorist devils are living in sublime luxury at our expense and don’t deserve our compassion.

If they’re having mental problems it’s probably because they are used to living in the desert and not in a tropical paradise. (Probably just pining for their camels or a good feed of dates.)

Everybody knows they are living in resort-like conditions with access to all the modern conveniences we have to offer.

They are obviously criminals who support an illegal immigration industry and gladly exploit their own children to get a foot in the door of our merciful refugee process.

Let’s cast these pagan demons out of our country, along with all the bleeding-heart leftist do-gooders, and we will finally be able to reap the benefits of the caring and compassionate utopia promised to us by our beloved Prime Minister.

Georgie seems to be applying the old fallacy of "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (after this, therefore because of this). Just because some refugees are allegedly suffering from mental problems when settled in Australia does not mean this was caused by time spent on a tropical island where they can mix freely in the community and be together as a family. More likely they were suffering these problems long before Naru. Or perhaps the stress of worrying whether their asylum applications will be successful contributes to the problem. If this is the case then living in Naru has nothing to do with it. It's simply an unavoidable consequence of illegally arriving in another country after destroying all your relevant papers.

By the way, if anyone else tries to hold up Europe's stupid and self- destructive asylum policies as an example of enlightenment and the way forward, I'll vomit.