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Pakistani? Afghani? Does it matter? : Comments

By Marilyn Shepherd, published 10/4/2006

How it was done - a lesson in how to turn an Afghani family, the Bakhtiyaris, into a Pakistani one.

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A brief timeline shows that Roqia Bakhtiyari arrived in Australia on New Years Day 2001. She gave birth to Mazhar on October 15, 2003. I wonder if refugee 'activists' and Jesuits might have suggested to Roqia that it might be a good idea to become impregnated as it would strengthen the family's application to stay in Australia.

Marilyn, I own an opera house at Bennelong Point and I'm thinking of selling. Are you interested?
Posted by Sage, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 10:04:32 AM
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The spin this auther puts on her articles was exposed on another blog, some time back, in a thread on the Siev X. It was claimed that a search for a missing Customs vessel was more intense than the search for the Siev X (on racist grounds) even though both were in the SAME area. The customs vessel was just off Cape York and the Siev X was in Indonesian waters 4000 kls away. Yeah, thats close!
A direct slur on our Search and Rescue personel

It was also inplied that Australian Defence/security personel were involved in a sabotage of the Siev X.

She also denied that the Tampa was hyjacked even though the Master told an inquiry that he altered course to Christmas Island because he feared for the safety of his crew.

I think it best that the rantings of this auther be ignored.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 10:59:32 AM
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Marilyn Said:

"If the children are distressed because of the behaviour of adults it is the children's faults."

No it is there parent's fault.

"Who asked a little baby if he wanted to be locked up, how about a 3 year old?"

The parents by not presenting with identification papers and a visa.

"You don't seem to understand that the children were never asked anything at all."

Again, the parents.

"This is a story about DIMA manipulating the birth certificate of an Austrailan born baby to make him have a different nationality. Do you think that is an OK thing to?"

DIMIA didn't manipulate the birth certificate. Unlike the USA, birth in Australia conveys no special citizenship or residential status. The Citizenship Act (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aca1948254/) is very clear on how citizenship is aquired. The gready, self-indulgent act of procreating just because you can do that in America back-fired on the Bakhityaris.

"It is also a story about Australia being aware for 4 years that they had mistaken the identity of an innocent woman but kept her locked up anyway and then deliberately sent her to the wrong country."

No. It is a story about someone who comes here, without proof makes false claim and a country's right to determine who lives here. These determinations made under existing law, agreed to by our democratic institutions and upheld by our impartial courts.

My suggestion to you, is that if you want to help genuine refugees, fly overseas and actually help people in the refugee camps.
Posted by Narcissist, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 2:20:57 PM
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And once again, Marilyn, how much did this one family cost the Australian tax payer in total?
Were the family paid to leave fairly peacefully?
Lastly, how about watching over the rights of lowly paid Aussies who cannot get medical treatment, Housing, who pay more that they should for gas, electricity and telephones.
Spare a bit of time for them, even if they are only Australians
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 3:25:12 PM
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it doesn't mean living in peaceful and prosprous country bring changes among the people that EVERY THING IS OK AROUND THE WORLD. i can better understand the circumstances Bakhtiari family migrated from their country. i am working in Afghanistan for almost 1 year. i've closely ovserved the relationship among the tribes and ethnics. as far as the B. Family is concerned, if they really belong to Afghanistan so they deserved to quit their country for various reason. there are still commnaders who dominate the regions and take the example of Afghan National Assembly, most of the members have been warlords. there are still more than 18,000 illegal armed groups and more than 1,000,00 tons of ammunition stored under the custody of warlords and other people. land mines kill and disable people everyday. poverty is unbearable and it is pity to see Bakhtiari Family back in the country in this situation.
just imegine, if they are Pakistani. I have come to know that they belong to Shia sect of Hazara ethnic Muslim. anyone know what's happening against Shi'ite Muslim in Pakistan or Iraq? they are in constant suicide attacks of Al-Qaeda.
i just hope people would open their eyes and see the facts. like Bakhtiary family there are thousands of families who should be evacuated from here in Afghanistan.
Posted by Phill, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 5:59:22 PM
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Phil you shed light onto the situation. It was good to hear your understanding of the issues in Afganistan.

Not so the mean and nasty, the holy rollers and those who have only recently made Australia home.

I had thought that Arjay had mellowed, maybe had found peace, but no - the venom is still strong.

What the author makes clear is that DIMIA deliberately withheld information. With the Cornelia Rau and Solon cases to name a few, it is not surprising that DIMIA is not functioning appropriately.

What I would like to know is why so many people so love to spill their bile about someone who is a little different from them.

Many of the views posted here are purely xenophobic. As Xavier Herbert noted "poor fellow my country"
Posted by Aka, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 6:17:32 PM
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