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Pakistani? Afghani? Does it matter? : Comments

By Marilyn Shepherd, published 10/4/2006

How it was done - a lesson in how to turn an Afghani family, the Bakhtiyaris, into a Pakistani one.

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Wobbles,have a look at the Koran that postulates that we the "infidels" ie. that we the non believers must be converted to Islam or destroyed.I have yet to hear one Muslim to actually decry Osama Bin Laden as a murderous facist.Just ask any Muslim in Australia if Osama is a great man.You will never get a definite answer,just equivocations to deflect true analysis of their real intentions.No other group in our society causes us such angst and violence,yet we put up with this nonsense from a group that is less than 5% of our population?

If Muslims are really offended by their radical nutters and want to be accepted by all Aussies,why are they not protesting against the lunatic murderous parisites who feed off our Western affluence and good will.I have yet to see or hear one voice of protest,let alone a single street march of solidarity with fellow Australians that condemns the lunatic extremists.

In reality they don't have the courage of their religious convictions when presenting a facade of peaceful good intentions.
Muslims seek power via Western ingenuiety and good will,but where is Allah?

Even with all the Muslim violence we experience in Sydney our own State Govt is in denial and doesn't have the courage or the political will to confront it.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 27 April 2006 9:10:41 PM
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Arjay , the Bible ( which has a statistically higher number of violent passages than the Koran) suggests the Christian God is more violent toward unbelievers. For example, He orders his followers to kill all those of a different religion, including family members, friends and even their cattle, whereas the Moslem God simply requires the enslaving of non-believers. (See Deuteronomy 13:6-15 vs Koran 9:29, and Deuteronomy 20:13-16 vs Koran 47:4 to name just a couple). There are many more examples I can provide on the same theme - and also some in the other direction as the need arises. As I have said elsewhere, the use of selective religious texts isn’t a sound basis for a rational argument but is apparently a valid reason on both sides to kill people.

Bin Laden was given specialist medical treatment in a military Hospital in Pakistan and a US Hospital in Dubai during July 2001 (in the presence of the CIA) , as well as emergency treatment the day before the 911 incident, despite being a wanted man. Perhaps somebody in the West still had a use for him. The financial and business ties between the Bush and Bin Laden families are also well documented.

There have already been many public statements denouncing fundamentalism made by various Muslim representatives but apparently not enough to satisfy some people. However, when some crackpot makes a statement in support of fundamentalism, the media is all over him.

Why then don’t our own religious leaders speak out against every single injustice in our own society?

Why don’t our Japanese, Bolivian, Honduran, Spanish, French, Phillipino and Columbian residents speak out about the terrorism still happening in their former countries?

Probably because the overwhelming majority of people (who are decent law-abiding citizens) don’t feel the need to be active apologists for the actions of a few people who aren’t wrapped very tight.

I don’t have to justify everything said by a Pope or Archbishop supposedly on my behalf, nor am I guilty of atrocities performed by Christians by implication of religious association.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 28 April 2006 3:01:52 PM
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