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Nuclear profits could cost us dear : Comments

By Christine Milne, published 7/4/2006

Who are we kidding? Directly or indirectly, Australian uranium will support China's nuclear weapons program.

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Your concerns are being addressed Jana Banana, at this very moment.
USA, Japan, India, Australia. Etc.
Your view of Marxisised minds is 100% spot on target. Welcome aboard.
Posted by All-, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 4:12:42 PM
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JaBa,

I see nothing in the Dow Jones quote you supplied that indicates that missiles that China sold to Iran contain nuclear devices. Sale of non-nuclear missiles is perfectly legal (if deplorable). I believe that the US is the largest manufacturer and vendor of such weapons.

According to a report on ABC radio this evening that I have not been able to independently verify:

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It's fascinating to see how much space the Australian media has dedicated to the prospect of selling Australian uranium to China. But one issue has been conspicuously absent from the coverage of Premier Wen shaking an array of important hands, even though it holds far greater prospects than uranium for both increasing export dollars and for reducing greenhouse pollution.

Slipping through almost unnoticed in the acres of newsprint was the revelation that, the same day as the uranium deal, a joint enterprise called Roaring Forties, involving Hydro Tasmania, signed a 300 million Australian dollar deal to build three 50MW windfarms in Eastern China.

Those windfarms are part of China's plans to expand its wind industry to a huge 30,000MW by 2020 in order to meet its legislated target to meet a full 15% of its energy from renewable energy sources by 2020. Over that same period, uranium's salesmen say nuclear power may meet perhaps 5% of China's energy needs...
END QUOTE, from http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/perspective/stories/s1614652.htm

If that report is correct, then China is doing far more than the US or Australia to establish an greenhouse-friendly regime for energy supply. According to an ABC report last September, http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/tas/content/2005/s1467365.htm , Roaring Forties is a Tasmania-based company jointly owned by Hydro Tasmania and Chinese company China Light and Power.
Posted by MikeM, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 8:10:56 PM
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Dear MikeM,

Have you been to China lately?? The smog is so bad that they are going to ban cars and factories from running their stacks in Beijing for at least 3 months before the games begin in the hope that this may enable the athletes to perform. In other words shut down a whole city for 3 months.Only an extreme brutal regime could do that.

The Chinese Communist regime does not believe in preserving or cleaning up the environment. The cleanup was strongly recommended by the Olympic committee when it was there on its inspection for the 2008 Games.

The only reason they are looking for uranium is further their nuclear weapons programme for future use against USA and all western democratic societies.

This is a brutal regime who also has a space programme. They are selling missiles and have been testing their own nuclear bombs in East Turkestan now for over 10 years. 200,000 East Turkestan residents Muslims I might add have died thru these tests.

And why is Osama Bin Laden and his like not standing up for his fellow Muslims??
Why is he not terror bombing China?

Because the communist regime has been helping extremist Muslims for well over a decade now because their goal is common - to Wipe out USA and democracy and rule the world with communism.

And if the communist regime wins this take over then they too will kill all Muslims .
Well that’s their plan… but I believe that this wont happen.

The Chinese everyday people want their freedom and there have been too many uprisings in the last few years. 75,000 up risings last year. 10 million have resigned from the communist regime since Nov 2004 .

And it all started with an editorial series called the 9 Commentaries.

Here is the link check it out. http://ninecommentaries.com/

The communist regime’s days are numbered. And the world will be a far safer place with them gone.
Posted by Jana Banana, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:20:39 PM
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JaBa,

The Epoch Times, which brings us "The Nine Commentaries", is not generally regarded as a balanced newspaper of record, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

It may indeed report news from China that other media ignore or fail to capture, but it mixes this with biassed opinion and exaggeration.

According to a report from the ABC's correspondent, John Taylor, in Beijing last Friday, http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1610868.htm

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Sandstorms regularly sweep across Beijing; construction sites dotting the landscape throw up massive amounts of dust.

Then there's car emissions. Last year 1,000 new cars hit Beijing's roads every day, bringing the total to 2.6 million. That figure is expected to top 3.5 million by the time of the Olympics.

Ensuring that the 2008 Beijing Olympics aren't ruined by worsening pollution has been a major concern of organisers. For the past few years authorities have been greening the city, and moving away polluting factories and power plants.

Now they've announced they're planning to take a number of drastic measures.

For a two-month period around the Games, all construction work will cease, remaining polluting factories and power plants will be closed down, and roads will be sprayed with water and swept several times a day...

There's one measure though, that car-owning Beijingers may find hard to swallow: car restrictions.

A key proposal is to force hundreds of thousands of drivers to leave their cars at home for a two-month period starting before the opening ceremony, and ending with the close of the Paralympics.

For most of this time, about only half of all projected cars will be allowed on the roads. During the Games itself, the number will be slashed to less than a third.

Not everyone's going to be happy...

Officials are considering offering paid holidays and public transport free passes to affected motorists. But if they choose sticks over carrots, being a one party dictatorship can help to get things done.
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Beijingers buying 1000 new cards a day: how brutal is that?
Posted by MikeM, Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:07:30 AM
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Dear MikeM

Wilkipedia can be edited by anyone. So for the article written on The Epoch Times to make you question their credibility - how do you know that it wasn't edited by one of the 30,000 internet Chinese spies.

As to your question How brutal is that??

Only a regime with such controlling powers could make the edict that this will be so. Can you imagine our western democratic countries being told by the Governemnt "that you can't drive to work and we'll give you all free bus passes" being obeyed??

Also give a thought as to why the pollution is so bad over there and prompting the question why this isnt being cleaned up as we speak instead of waiting for the 2008 Olympic games to show a good face to the world??

The Chinese communist regime is all about showing a good face and denying, lies, slandering, and controlling every thought in every chinese citizen.
There is no rule of law over there only rule of Man --communist regime law.

I'd like to ask you a question Mike I dont know where you live and I wont ask. But if you had to make one choice between liviing in China or Australia, where would like to live??
Posted by Jana Banana, Thursday, 13 April 2006 6:13:21 PM
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Jaba,

I live in Sydney and have spent time in Seoul, Bangkok, Singapore and Hongkong. Shanghai? On company assignment I wouldn't mind at all. Beijing? No. Seoul is bad enough in Jan and Feb when the sandstorms blow in from the Gobi Desert.

Chinese might find it strange that Sydney's eastern suburbs people have been forbidden to drive across the city anymore. Roads have been blocked to stop them. Instead, they must use public transport or pay a toll of $3.50 each way to go through a tunnel.

The Chinese government denies every inconvenient truth.

The Australian government is far more ethical. It denies only the most convenient ones: children overboard; Pacific solution to avoid being swamped by Muslims; Australian Wheat Board bribes to Saddam? never...

The Chinese government is engaged in a balancing feat that has never before been attempted: how to move 1.3 billion people from totalitarian state to market economy. East European formerly Communist bloc countries are achieving this with some success but they are smaller countries.

The Economist newspaper reports this week:

"A study by the Vienna Institute for Comparative Economic Studies, a think-tank, and Bank Austria Creditanstalt paints an encouraging picture, at least for the eight ex-communist countries that joined the European Union two years ago... [they] look set to keep their edge against their Asian competitors in the EU market..."

Russia, most commentators consider, has made an evil mess of the process. A few billionaires have snared the most worthwhile companies, bought for a song. Russia's totalitarian instinct by some accounts now trumps China's.

I don't discount criticism of China's chancy legal system, capital punishment, fragile property rights and sometimes highly "convenient" interpretation of commercial and international law.

But the practical question you need to ask is, how best can this country get from where it is to where it and the world at large want it to be?

JaBa, if you are smarter than the present Chinese government and can do that better than them, why don't you move to Beijing and show them how?
Posted by MikeM, Friday, 14 April 2006 9:51:48 PM
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