Can't see the point? It's a religious war. Get it? Or perhaps you and your fellow googlers missed that in your revisionist histories. As to life being short, it's the longest thing you will ever have, leftist hearbreak notwithstanding. We have a separation of church and state. They do not and the results speak for themselves. In fact, every trouble spot in the world seem to have that little problem.

Because our arguments are about even, keep it up you Posters from both sides. Should be a wish you all well from the Online Management. Remember also what even Winston Churchill once said - "Jaw Jaw is much better than WAR WAR!"

George C, WA - Bushbred

You have to be a little cynical about the the yanks though.For 12 mths we have no American ambassador in Australia.Condaleezza Rice was only able to find the Australia with geiger counter since the Yanks have finally realised that they have to wean themselves off oil and go nuclear.

Then they have the audacity to dictate to us whom we can sell our uranium to.Perhaps Zimbabwe should find some uranium and then the US will rid them of the Mugabe butcher.

So George Dubwuya finally sends over one of secret society of the order of Skull and Crossbones to be their ambassador to Aust.Only the super intelligent or super rich may join,the only problem being is that when someone tells a joke,George has to get the cue from Condeleezza on when to laugh.So no jokes will be told while Condeleezza is away.

Pete , your right, its just sad for the world that those beginnings normaly end up as violent endings as well.

Theres a strong rumour that the organisation called the “skull and bones”, is an affiliate of the great white brotherhood, also known throughout history as the Knights Templar. A very violent religious organisation which uses many groups to work through and who've used whatever means available to achieve their aim, of monotheistic world economic and cultural domination.

The rumour goes, that you find them in the top jobs in Government, politics, multinational and monopoly businesses. As well as at the head of many religious organisations, businesses and charities. Of course there is also the Australian equivalents which many politicians, beaurucrats, heads of business and church leaders are also members of. Its not hard to guess who those groups are.

Bush bred, “jaw jaw” is all we have to retain our sanity, why is it that “war war”, always wins in the first instance. What other reason can there be for the USA to be discriminating against those countries that hold the life blood of their war machine. Won't follow orders, nor give up their economic and cultural heritage, to fatten a few religiously controlled companies. Well thats the rumour, the boys and girls under the bar, told last Friday at 10.30pm, so keep it under your hat, we don't want to start more rumours.

More about Condy

Kerry versus Condy

Re' the discussion between Condoleeza Rice and Kerry O'Brien the other night on the ABC, it was interesting to notice Condy's split second change of face under questioning. From the point of view of a historian and writer there became fixed in the mind, the picture of a person who though able to put on a front good enough for an academy award, the lady reacted strangely when asked two particular questions - one about a coming US attack on Iran, and the other about China's huge projected military buildup? With both suggestions or queries, her colouring turned almost ashen for that split second, though possibly hardly enough to be noticed by the average observer.

In some ways we might say that for Condy to feel tension like that could be an omen for the future, and a hope, in a way, that dangerous sounding threats by the United States as published in a recent 'West Australian" newspaper, might be all just so much talk or spin.

Anyhow, let's hope so, partly for America's sake alone.

George C, WA - Bushbred

Just to update a post from Narcissist. Iran is a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.