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Spinning us to war in Iran : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 15/3/2006

We are being spun a lie on Iran by Western media.

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Benjamin says: Iran is "the major threat facing the world today", then contradicts himself with: Its "sole aim is to destroy Israel".
Benjamin says: Arabs, including (especially?) "Palestinian negotiators", are corrupt.
Benjamin says: "Arafat was offered a state...but rejected it."
Benjamin says: "Arabs" are "power driven" and enjoy "humiliating the 'other'. "
Benjamin says: "Oh, before I forget, I am not a...Zionist."
Judge Judy says: "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 16 March 2006 8:56:22 AM
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Benjamin wrote, "Iran is nothing short of the major threat facing the world today."

Assuming Iran does build a couple of nuclear bombs and fire them at Israel, that is not exactly threatening the world. Besides, rendering Israel radioactive makes it uninhabitable by Palestinians as well as by Jews.

Hardly a winning move.

Is it worth attacking Iran to counter this real or imagined threat?The US doesn't have a spare army large enough to occupy the country and neither do we. If we have trouble keeping the peace among 26 million Iraqis, how would we manage among 70 million Iranians?

The best we could manage is probably air strikes on suspected nuclear sites. These might or might not set back Iran's ambitions, whatever they really are, for a while. It would certainly cause the Iranian government to become extremely cross.

The strait of Hormuz is at the mouth of the Persian Gulf between Iran and Oman. At its narrowest it provides two shipping channels, each a mile wide. Through the Strait passes 40% of the world's oil supply. An angry Iranian government could easily retaliate by, amongst other things, closing the Strait to shipping.

Are the Washington chickenhawks really insane enough to provoke Iran? If they do, is the Australian government insane enough to join in? We can only wait and see.
Posted by MikeM, Thursday, 16 March 2006 9:35:16 AM
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Apropos of the international arguments over and above iran and persian muslims is this amazing bit of tv that may not be online very long, not sure so if interested better watch ASAP. u need sound too. The woman in the debate is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist apparently. This shows how the world doesn't need balls to protect freedom of speech, it just needs guts.

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null
Posted by Ro, Thursday, 16 March 2006 3:34:04 PM
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Will some of you aver learn that it is Western intrusion into the Middle East that has been the cause of the trouble you are so on about it. Since WW1, it has been the quest for the rotten black stuff, most of the time - made more problematic by America helping the Jews regain again their so-called Promised Land, now with nuclear rockets at the ready, backed by Pax Americana to assure them of completing their alotted destiny.

Surveying such a historical picture, should it not it be understandable that Iran, who up till now has never attacked another ME country, would want to somehow match that nest of atomic rockets?

It seems some of you guys need to get historically real, or rather to develop a sense of fair play.
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 16 March 2006 4:56:53 PM
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Dr Sultan, featured in the Al Jazeera TV clip to which Ro has posted a link just above, was featured in an International Herald Tribune (from NYTimes) article on Monday, at http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/13/america/web.0313sultan.php. I think I previously posted the link. To reprise:

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In the interview, which has been viewed on the Internet more than a million times and has reached the e-mail of hundreds of thousands around the world, Dr. Sultan bitterly criticized the Muslim clerics, holy warriors and political leaders who she believes have distorted the teachings of Muhammad and the Koran for 14 centuries.

She said the world's Muslims, whom she compares unfavorably with the Jews, have descended into a vortex of self-pity and violence.

Dr. Sultan said the world was not witnessing a clash of religions or cultures, but a battle between modernity and barbarism, a battle that the forces of violent, reactionary Islam are destined to lose.

In response, clerics throughout the Muslim world have condemned her, and her telephone answering machine has filled with dark threats. But Islamic reformers have praised her for saying out loud, in Arabic and on the most widely seen television network in the Arab world, what few Muslims dare to say even in private...
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Islam is potentially as capable of modern interpretations as Christianity became following the Reformation.
Posted by MikeM, Thursday, 16 March 2006 6:09:07 PM
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Eh, MikeM, Islam does not need to copy what we former barbarians have achieved. Just learn a few lessons from the rotten things us former barbos have really done, knocked off six million mostly innocent Jews, for example, as well as before that God knows how many indigines in the name of Christ and God. So maybe if the Islamics started way back when they gave the message to St Thomas Aquinas how to get Chrisianity out of the dark poo, let
s hope they look at their history books, think of the better times, Chuck out the Mullahs. take a lessom from the Golden Age of Greece. as they did before AD 1100, and - Bob's your Uncle - it may make a far more honest world condition than we are chasing after now.
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 16 March 2006 7:19:24 PM
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