BD, where do you FIND these films? I thought I was something of a cinefile, and an ageing, retro one at that, but these slipped under my radar. On excitedly checking the IMDB, I found no listing for 'Intensity', and so few people had seen the (unavailable) 'The Sensualist' that there weren't the requisite five comments needed for a review. Please don't take this the wrong way, but you have mentioned you were a missionary (a group whose intentions I abhor, but whose dedication I cannot but admire): do they show these films in missionary school? I am reminded of Fred Nile's claim he'd seen 'Caligula' 17 times - something which takes a far stronger stomach and far higher boredom threshhold than mine - to fully apprise himself of its debauchery. Do they (this is a genuine question, not intended as mockery) find the worst excesses of the secular world, and rub your nose in it? If you have an interest in nihilist film, even to learn what you despise, have a look at 'Man Bites Dog' and 'Funny Games'.

Shonga,

If only it were that simple.... I agree with you. The Democrats allegedly have the most Democratic processes of any political party...BUT the Senators allegedly don't like following the party line at times. To an outsider it looks as though they want the ability to be flexible with party policy .. to be traders as it were... trading policy for compromise. Hence the crash!

That is the problem... politicians have egos as big as rock stars and don't like being told what they should do... It is the problem with democracy (not that I wish to change options or go to socialism) once you have cast your vote the pollies can claim a mandate for anything they wish... At that point the voters view is basically irrelevant and the party machine takes over.

The machine is full of back room players (oops advisors). These advisors have incredible powers ... their advice can help a party like labor lose an unloseable election because of a new tax called the GST. These advisors may even be able to stop a Prime Minister from being told "kids weren't thrown overboard... the ship was sinking".

Ask a labor voter ... the advisors and the Pollies thought they couldn't lose the GST election but still did. I bet the advisors who assisted in the complacency at that time still have their jobs.

Pollies (in general) don't like sharing power with anyone especially the members.

Tigerlily,
Quote, "The "culture"o of death literally rules!"

This is a facinating reflection on our own culture in the light of the RU486 champane celebration by secular atheists members of Federal Parliament. This is a celebration of a death pill for taking the life of the unborn child. Does the stinging anti-Catholic comment directed at Tony Abbott by the nettle indicate that she intends to act irresponsible become pregnant and take the pill as a form of birth control to abort unwanted children? "Take your rosary off MY OVARIES" is a personal commentary of irresponsible behaviour.

These are the same people pushing for the rights of Dr. Death to take life. Next we will have the introduction of infanticide for unproductive members of society. The next will be the death of those that threaten society by criminal acts. This is the present agenda of true secular atheists seking Government.

The USA may be considered the enemy acting outside the threatened society but when we look at the secular atheists within our Government we can recognise them as the enemy of the innocent and vunerable in our society.

Philo, Like all right wingers and righteous religionists you like to reduce everything to a set of black & white binary exclusions.
Every issue is full multiple historical & cultural contexts.

The only way to deal with the problem of abortion is via a fully comprehensive EMOTIONAL-sexual education fopr all young people so that they are thoroughly informed about every aspect of their EMOTIONAL-sexual being. See Sex & Emotion at:

1. www.beezone.com/AdiDa/sex.htm AND

2. www.dabase.net/twoarmc.htm

AND to create a freely chosen truly humanising culture of intimate cooperation whereby the TERRIFYING threat of survival is mostly eliminated and everyone knows that they are capable of giving & receiving love. A culture of expectation and demand whereby everyone is fully responsible for all of ones actions.

The ROOT cause of the abortion problem is the sex negative and body negative script that we have inherited from the church, especially the catholics and the more calvinistic protestants. A script whereby sex and where even bodily pleasure is considerd "sinful". A script which up till recently caused us to be entirely ignorant of even the geography of our own bodies.
And ENTIRELY ignorant of the EMOTIONAL dimensions of our being.
This body negative script is the root cause of all our seemingly intractable social problems from overeating/bulimia, to drug abuse and the destruction of the environment which is just an extension of our bodies.

Altogether this body hating, body negative script can be described as a war against the body. Indeed the author of the Right Human Life essays states exactly that. He points that western "culture" as a whole is mounted upon an extreme hostility to everything to do with the culture of WOMAN. Everything to do with feeling, the senses, bodily pleasure, intimate relationships.

The fear based "culture" of anti-feeling manifests as the arms race, worldwide terror and perhaps inevitably total war.

See THE TABOO AGAINST THE SUPERIOR MAN at:

3 www.dabase.net/2armP1.htm#ch2

Also Freedom of Choice in Sexuality

4. www.dabase.net/freersex.htm

I can see you've taken your fear pill today Philo, just proves my point, religion can only survive on induced fear. Every religious posters entire argument relies on instilling fear of future change, away from their power base. Desperately trying to prove any other form of political control other than religious, is doomed.

Honestly, morals love, none of this in religious history, they deliberately avoid the extent and influence of religion in despotic regimes.

Alan Grey says, over 170 Million people in the 20th century were killed by these regimes. I can't find any supporting evidence for this other than religious sources. Just lies, adding another nail in the coffin of religious credibility.

The desperation of their fear knows no bounds, as seen throughout history by the overreactions to those that have opposed them. They steer clear of the evangelistic deaths during their colonisation of the world. The lengths they went to destroying other belief systems, replacing them by violence with the love of god. I've seen them in action when travelling with my father as a kid to missions throughout Australia, as well as in Borneo, Indonesia and Papua in the 60's.

My observations were unknown by the missionaries in the 60's, when they were aware of our presence, they acted very differently. I can vouch for their violent inducing of fear into indigenous peoples. Look at the basket case Africa has become since the introduction of monotheistic religions. The degenerate lifestyle that the people now live, whilst the churches get richer worldwide.

We are wasting our time winding up the metronomes and oiling their revolving doors, their in violent meltdown mode worldwide. We will just have to ride the storm and hope they will kill themselves, so we can get on bringing this world to a scenario that will allow people to live in peace and harmony free from religious influence and dominance.

We don't need a new party, but a new system the allows everyone to have a vote on all important issues. Until then, it will be more of the same, with a different name.

Alchemist,
I see you approve of death to innocent healthy babies in the womb, but dissaprove strongly if innocent people are accidently killed in war. A double standard here in your values.

You are so out of touch with reality with statements like this: "The lengths they [missionaries] went to destroying other belief systems, replacing them by violence with the love of god. I've seen them in action when travelling with my father as a kid to missions throughout Australia, as well as in Borneo, Indonesia and Papua in the 60's."

Get updated on the reality. I have a civilised Papuan family as close friends in the Church here and his grandfather was a head hunter. Today a more gentle man you would not find anywhere. His brother was killed six weeks ago by a native tribal pay-back with a poison dart; from tribal rivalry dating back many generations. He has learned to forgive and will not take a life from his tribal rivals because he is now a Christian. Obviously you prefer tribal pay-back killing than Christian civilised response. "Forgive your enemy, do good to those that hate you.