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The economic outlook for 2006 : Comments

By Peter Jonson, published 17/1/2006

Peter Jonson previews the year ahead - plenty of risks, overall prospect of growth, not too much inflation.

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O for goodness sake. Everything looks rosy, so let business continue as normal. Let’s just keep on promoting economic growth and kidding ourselves that Australia’s resource boom will continue, despite our ever-sicker resource base, with an ever-greater demand being placed on it.

Peter Jonson is probably pretty close to right with his one-year forecast, notwithstanding possible large-scale effects from the wild cards that he mentions. But this message is just so terribly misleading in the slightly longer term. We desperately need to be preparing for the huge and massively disruptive resource crisis that peak oil will bring.

I don’t mean the actual peak in oil production, I mean the rising prices caused by the rapidly diverging demand and supply capability, as peak production approaches (or maybe we have already reached it). This is happening NOW! In all probability it won’t be very long at all before fuel prices rise to the point that they really start to change our whole economy and society.

Instead of worrying too much about how the economies of China, US, Japan and Europe might affect Australia, let’s worry about how to get through the forthcoming oil shock. This is a million times more important.

The LAST thing we need is more of the same economic approach for the next 12 months.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 11:30:28 AM
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WRE,
You are wrong again as usual, we have been "left behind" by selfish, uncaring businesses like yours, who have no respect for their employees, in my case after a 21 year employment record which included more than 2 years worth of unpaid overtime. Making people like you richer, and people like me poorer, there was no "loyality" shown to me, of the type employees are expected to show their employer. This is why we are in the position we are in, blame your ilk, not ours, we keep our side of the bargain.

Still, we have not had the benefit of the paranoid ramblings of Khmer Rouge yet, so I guess we will wait for the possessor of all knowledge to arrive and set us straight, of course before he seeks medical care for his illness.

Hope there is a nice big tax cut for the parasites....
Posted by SHONGA, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 12:48:01 PM
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Shonga,

I sypmathise. You are right, businesses these days generally do not have loyalty for long term employees.

I wish it were different.

You cannot tell me though, in 21 years you did not at some point along the way realise that you were flogging a dead horse?

If you were not moving inside the organisation, or your pay wasnt, why stay?

You are certainly intelligent enough, so why not get out of your comfort zone and achieve your goals.

Just dont be narky at the system. It is a fruitless, pointless excercise. At least you know the parameters of the system and you can milk it for what its worth, and control your own destiny.

Best of luck, poeak oil is a problem, but until the price doubles from its current, it will not effect things as much as the doomsdayers say.

I wont tell you the progress made in fuel cells i am sure you all know, but the race is on in this climate to start churning out new energy. think of it as computers in the 1970's, and we know where we are headed. Conspiracy theorists say oil companies etc will stop progress, but now they are leading the charge in securing their product placement for the future.
Posted by Realist, Thursday, 19 January 2006 2:29:48 PM
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Realist, you write; “peak oil is a problem, but until the price doubles from its current, it will not effect things as much as the doomsdayers say.”

How long do you think it will be before the price doubles? Not very long at all. Don’t you think that there are likely to be considerable consequences before it doubles? I can’t imagine things being just as they are now when it hits 2$/litre.

Those you call doomsdayers are realists, and those who ignore peak oil are doomsdayers.
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 19 January 2006 3:39:23 PM
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Realist,
Thank you for your kind words, I have always given 100% plus some to my employer's. Sadly my 21 year last employer was the worst type there is, the reason I didn't leave was that I had been belittled in front of customers and staff, emotionally blackmailed with the sack, if I did not make the boss a cup of coffee, the boss knowing that I had a mortage to maintain, or I would lose everything I had worked so hard to achieve for my family. I was even psyically assulted by one of my Manager's untill I developed what Premier Gallop has, arond 15 years ago. I recovered from the first nervous breakdown, however couldn't recover from the second I had recently. Along with being made redundant, as the purchasing section in all Queensland branches was moved to Brisbane. I suffer from Chronic Major Depression, Generalised Anxiety Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Insommnia. A fairly high individual price for hard work, from where I sit. Especially when I was classed at a level below what I should have been classed at by the award, and as a result recieved $40 p.w. less than I should have been paid. Which is why I now speak out on behalf of those who are unable to speak for themselves, the exploited. I realise that some employer's are good people, however I have only met 2 in my lifetime, I am now 50, and started work at 14. I am very much in favor of workers and small business, although that does not come accross here.
Posted by SHONGA, Thursday, 19 January 2006 3:49:29 PM
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Peter, talking as a farm director, it seems that these days with China on the economic up and up with finance available to purchase our iron ore and other pitstock resources, produce such as wheat and wool which were our mainstays not so long ago in real time, have lost their importance. As in the Roaring Twenties Big Biz is now ruling the roost in the shape of corporatism, now investing heavily in low wage areas such as China and India keeping the global economy on the cheap supply side, as well as keeping even our low wage earners reasonably happy with cheap clothing, etc, etc.

Again talking as a farm director, Peter, with our modern labour-saving equipment, we not only need less workers, but the country needs less farm owners, which unfortunately leaves less farm voters to have their say in the government to protect not only farm businesses but a farmer’s way of country life.

It seems that now in this crazy world of extreme market capitalism, when money is not so much being made from production, but from changing hands, country life has lost its flair. Also in farming properties closer to the cities there is despair with dairy farmers selling out and taking advantage of high land prices while their luck is in. Also many fruit growers are following the dairy farmers as bi-lateral trade dumps far cheaper imported fruit in shops not far from their boundaries.

The worry is that you as a top consultant, Peter, seem to take these present agricultural problems so lightly. I guess you must realise that our former Country Party. now the National Party, apart from in Queensland probably, is so close to the Howard government right now in policy, it has become a dead loss to the cockies. I guess you must know that Mark Vaile, now our Deputy Prime Minister, as a farmer’s rep’ is just a joke. Did you know that Mark was formerly not a farmer, but a real estate agent.
Posted by bushbred, Saturday, 21 January 2006 1:32:46 AM
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