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Environmental security in a post-tsunami world : Comments

By Chris Hails, published 17/1/2006

Chris Hails argues we need to take better care of the environment that sustains us.

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MichaelK,

Tortured grammar aside, do you have any evidence to support your ridiculous claims that large multi-disciplinary infrastructure projects like flooding Lake Eyre are all about ENGINEERING.

Get real, Engineers will get a slice of the pilot PILOT project to start but they will be way down on the list of scientific personnel required to get such a pilot to a stage where Engineering becomes significant.

My calculations are based on a breadth of experience including a trek through the main areas concerned between Port Augusta and L Eyre. They are not intended to be 100% accurate, only indicative of the worth of a pilot project.

And one last point, with extended droughts due to climate change, Australia will soon have no choice but to investigate the flooding of L Eyre and the optimum technology to ensure this project can drag & drop SA coastal rain bands deep into NSW and Voictoria.
Posted by KAEP, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 5:19:28 PM
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Surely, ANY microstructure-related project is not about engineering only, because engineering is a COMPLEX tool to implementing political decisions.

Many people play guitars but the Beatles were/ARE one only: to be an engineer a PROFESSIONAL education background should be melted with personal inspiration and imaginary.

Practically, unlike in music, a bulk of data further combined with inspiration and imaginary does not work in absence of a professional basic knowledge developed with a range of specific science/engineering subjects.

No sorry that my engineering brain is still better functioning than it has been supposed (and allowed) by local master-minders with their perfect local English.
Posted by MichaelK., Thursday, 20 April 2006 12:26:04 PM
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Come on MichaelK,

Put your engineering brain into gear and show us what ideas you can come up with to drag and drop SA coastal rain bands deep into NSW and Victorian territory.

Calculate the evaporation rate required to lower SA temperatures in a 20Km line between L Eyre and Port Augusta by .5 degC. Calculate the salt produced by the evaporation and its most efficient removal cost.

Prove that a .5 deC average temperature drop along such a line would indeed steer coastal rain bands inland and calculate their new vector.

If you can address some of these issues I will listen.

Otherwise .....

PS it is coincidental that the Federal government today allocated $820 million to the eastern states for water reform. My 14th April estimate for a basic L Eyre project was $800 million with the potential to deliver increased eastern rainfalls, the eqivalent of Murray River inflow from the Snowy Mnts scheme.
Posted by KAEP, Thursday, 20 April 2006 1:06:28 PM
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C’mmon KOEP.

Are you going to pack all seemingly perfectly estimated with computer soil on Coles/Safeway shelves?

Tell all this crap of “meticulously calculated patterns” to boys paying from state coffins for such useless calculations in order to gratify their NETWORK.

All you mention is a MISERABLE part of a task and I am not going to do anything for nothing because of a reality, when a non-Anglo background automatically makes professionals de-facto undesirable and unemployable in Australia
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 21 April 2006 12:19:14 PM
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MichaelK,

Why do you have to bring race into the the discussion? It has nothing to do with the topic. You can't assume that either me or KAEP are of British background or some other background.

Also, if it is not feasible to flood Lake Eyre using a sea-level canal, please tell us why.
Posted by geek100, Saturday, 22 April 2006 7:46:42 PM
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You are absolutely mistaken: mere racism grounds everything in Australia and engineering decisions - a privilege of a few has been just pure reflection of this reality.

Pumping ocean water into lakes is simplistic stupidity of narrow-minded politicians with, at least, very limited understanding of enviroissues.

A hint: such actions are not novelty round a globe.
Posted by MichaelK., Monday, 24 April 2006 11:53:08 AM
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