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Why it matters that Greenpeace lied and the press doesn't seem to care : Comments

By Graham Young, published 12/1/2006

Graham Young asks why mainstream journalists have accepted Greenpeace's claims to be rammed when they are obviously the aggressor.

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I think its about time, that Greenpeace, & the journalists they conspire with to publicise their law breaking stunts, were prosecuted for conspiracy.
We all know that the object of these stunts is to boost donations, rather than to achieve any worthwhile goal.
I guess it gives the self haters a way of easing their conscience.
Why is it that they, & any other "protester" can break the law with impunity?
Just reading the posts here, it is obvious that the self proclaimed
"green" & "left" believe they are entitled to do anything to try to force their will on the rest of the population.
& they claim to be enlightened.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 13 January 2006 10:52:38 PM
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"We all know that the object of these stunts is to boost donations"

Hey Hasbeen don't speak for me I don't know anything of the sort.Please speak for yourself.This exercise may be needed to improve there ramming technique.In which case I will donate more money until they have it down pat.I was hoping the Japenese vessel would be sunk on the first pass.But alas no.Obviously the Greenpeace vessel is not carrying enough concrete in her bow.That's the front for you.As an x mariner myself I will try to radio the captain and offer some advice on how to hit the japenese vessel midships for best effect,keeping within the rules of the road.This with a bit of luck will sink the Japenese vessel, and give the captain enough time to launch his safety devices to save the crew.Which is some what more chance than the whales get.

"The green and left believe they are entitled to do anything to try and force thier will on the rest of the population"That's rich, one would have thought this is what the Japenese whaling industry is doing to the rest of the world,When you consider that most of the people on the planet believe this practise to be a barbaric excercise left over from the dark ages who is trying to impose there will on whom ?.

Anyway why to you is this a left or right issue ?.So what your saying in effect is, of all the donations made to greenpeace through out the world which probably runs in to millions,they are all made by lefty's.

Now where's my harpoon I need to deflate an over active ego.
Posted by PHILB, Saturday, 14 January 2006 2:32:50 AM
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What i hate about the whole thing is, really importent issues in the hands of people like the Greens and Co who have no credibilty left.

They have destroyed themselves, thats fine. But in doing so they have also ruined chances for the animals and trees they were meant to be protecting.

They have alot to answer for!
Posted by meredith, Saturday, 14 January 2006 2:53:08 AM
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The footage taken from the Japanese vessel clearly shows the Greenpeace vessel is in reverse. The is no bow-wave at the front of the Greenpeace vessel, which there would be if it was intending to ram the Japanese vessel. The Japanese claim that Greenpeace rammed them is false.

The Greenpeace vessel very clearly did not ram the other ship. The 'Arctice Sunrsie' was in reverse. Graham your article comes across as being angry. Please relax.

Japanese proverb:

'The reverse side also has a reverse side.'
Posted by Ev, Saturday, 14 January 2006 3:41:22 AM
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"The footage taken from the Japanese vessel clearly shows the Greenpeace vessel is in reverse"

The footage taken from the Japanese vessel clearly shows that the Greenpeace vessel applied full reverse only moments prior to the collision, you can see it clearly by the boiling motion of the water at the stern, prior to that there was no evidence of reverse being applied.

Prior to that the Japanese vessel gave many warnings of an imminent collision, this was clearly audible on the 1st Greenpeace tape. Also audible was a Greenpeace person saying "this is gunna hurt". (hurt who, the Japanese or Greenpeace?)

Upon collision the 1st tape had the Greenpeace PR man clearly announcing that they had been rammed (since denied by expert) and the Greenpeace Capt saying that he maintained course and speed without change (since denied by Greenpeace).

All these items were removed or dubbed over in the 2nd edition, clearly Greenpeace have been editing the facts.
Posted by rog, Saturday, 14 January 2006 6:56:40 AM
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Ev, “The is no bow-wave at the front of the Greenpeace vessel,” I am certainly not an expert on marine matters though, I would imagine, if the Greenpeace vessel was hard to port the bow wave would have been obscured from view. Just an observation.
Posted by Craig Blanch, Saturday, 14 January 2006 8:18:41 AM
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