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Why it matters that Greenpeace lied and the press doesn't seem to care : Comments

By Graham Young, published 12/1/2006

Graham Young asks why mainstream journalists have accepted Greenpeace's claims to be rammed when they are obviously the aggressor.

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greenpeace are nothing more than neo-pirates of the high seas supported by an international gaggle of self opinionated media boosters and assorted zealots.

blackbeard lives.
arr, thar be burried treasure jim bob, arr.

japan should stop frigging around and arm its whaling boats with heavy duty canons so when the greenpeace pirates come a ramming they can quickly be dispatched to davie jone's locker.

isn't it ironic that an organisation with 'peace' in its name can be so violent??
Posted by vinny, Saturday, 14 January 2006 8:51:36 AM
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Greenpeace attempting to intimidate anyone is not on.

What do they expect to happen, the japanese are not going to say 'hey man, we see your point, peace dude come over for a smoke' so it is obvious they are no better than others attempting the strongarm tactics.

No doubt greenpeace has good intentions, but why put off a large proportion of people from their cause due to their rogue actions?

Are the coffers a little low greenpeace? well you will not get another dollar out of me now, and plenty others i expect. The media fan the flames but you put something out there like they did, the media will just do their job from there.

If i were in charge of greenpeace i would ban all those involved from the organisation, and all those who made the decisions. Arnt they smart enough to realise there are a myriad of solutions to draw attention to their plight, or to deter whaling boats. A bit of basic research will show that there are plenty . i think once again that greenpeace fails to 'think'. i would rather see 100 whales killed, than 1 person from stupid actions.
Posted by Realist, Saturday, 14 January 2006 9:51:32 AM
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Hi Graham,

you may have noticed, that real journalism died years ago. These days news are handed from one mob to another. No-one seems to be interested in the FACTS anymore, just sensationalism. Reporters these days become more and more like politicians. Push your line - and damn the facts. They are also just as gutless as our politicians. Why else would it be, that no-one is game enough to really investigate the facts and the reasons behind them?

Here are a few examples: the training of wharfies in the Middle East, to replace the existing wharfies; the "Children overboard" affair; the massacre at Port Arthur and the fairytales that went with it; the new gun laws, which were written BEFORE this massacre happened (anyone getting the gist of this?); the slaughter of whales (some of which take 90 minutes to die - extremely cruel); the lack of action by governments regarding this "scientific" slaughter; the lack of protection of our fishing areas, when it comes to the Japanese (we are good, when it comes to little boats of the Indonesians, though); etc., etc.

Shouldn't a REAL Government stop this massive and cruel killing of whales by all means at it's disposal? Not just protests (which are as weak as water)- but with effective force, if needed. Shouldn't a Government incapable of real action be handed a note of "NO CONFIDENCE" AND BE REPLACED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? Especially, when these politicians do nothing but deceive the public in general?

Shouldn't REAL reporters check out their stories for themselves, rather than just repeat things parrot fashion? What happened around here - are there no real men left anymore?

If you get the feeling, that I'm wound up - you better believe it!

I'm sick and tired of constantly being lied to and deceived by those, who should be looking after our interests. Most of them seem to be incapable of putting two and two together, but then have the gall, to treat us like idiots!

Justin
Posted by Justin, Saturday, 14 January 2006 12:36:27 PM
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GrahamY: In the greater scheme of things the Greenpeace collision with a Jap whaling ship working the vast Antarctic waters is a storm in a teacup. We should have much more to focus on than say, who tripped over a carcass? Besides; anyone taking sides too soon from this distance over navigation issues is jumping into hot water.

With two ships battling for the moral high ground in a surging ocean some one was bound to have their dignity dented. In this case it was Greenpeace but no one was injured. I hate to think how much worse it might have been.

Let’s put the incident in this context and compare it with say the fate of the Balibo five and that official cover up. Now there was an issue involving truth that got my back up. It took years for us to get anything like the truth on that one.

http://pilger.carlton.com/timor/balibo

http://www.scribepub.com.au/Catalogue/C-Up.html

In hindsight I trust no one with second hand info, and I say that in relationship to observing a range of demonstrations, mock ups and media stunts starting with Jim Cairns in Melbourne in the late 1960’s.

A biased media was not worth two bob then nor is it now.
Posted by Taz, Saturday, 14 January 2006 12:45:37 PM
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"The incident" raises many pertinent questions.

The following are just some that spring to mind:

Has the Arctic Sunrise berthed since "the incident"?

If so, where and (if so) what authorities were involved?

If not, how is the ship going to take on its next load of fuel?

Who pays for The Arctic Sunrise's fuel?

Most importantly, what flag was The Arctic Sunrise sailing under at the time of "the incident"?

Sincerely etc.

John Andrewartha
Posted by John Andrewartha, Saturday, 14 January 2006 5:00:39 PM
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"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
- Mahatma Ghandi
Posted by Ev, Saturday, 14 January 2006 7:44:02 PM
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