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Australia: toeing the Bush climate line : Comments

By Martin Callinan, published 22/12/2005

Martin Callinan argues climate change is a serious threat weighing on the future of mankind.

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Leigh said, "2% of which has occurred during President Bush’s watch."

Stop hanging off his balls like their lollipops. Something for Leigh, http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008125.html
Posted by Steel, Friday, 23 December 2005 1:36:33 AM
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Shonga, what a tirade. If someone quoting facts to you, can get you so upset, what would ideas do?
Man made green house is a myth, perpetuated by researchers who have invested their career in the myth, & must rave to keep the dollars comming. I have no faith in the objectivity of any of their pronouncements, & never could have, when they refuse to look at all the information available.
In 1970 I asked an old Queensland fisherman, who had not got through junior high school, what the hundreds of acres of thick brown scum was, on barrier reef waters. He told me it was dead coral spore, & explained how the coral released its spore in a single wave.
22 years later some marine biology researchers announce that THEY have made a momentous discovery. Give me a break.
If the dinosaurs had been able to control the planet, we would not exist. The shear arrogance of people who think the planet is now perfect, & must be kept unchanged, because it suits us, takes my breath away.
We are just another species which will, in tine, become extinct, with or without our own help. When we do, the planet will keep a small fossil record of our passing, & the effect of our tenure will be about as momentous as that of the dinosaurs.
Its time for the green house researchers to get a real job
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 23 December 2005 2:29:36 AM
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Leigh,

Emissions in almost all countries are rising; this is the problem all countries are trying to address. I am not sure why you say some countries with stark emission increases are ‘brilliant’ performers? The fact that these countries, with additional work to do, are demanding action of themselves and others says a great deal about how seriously they take the threat of climate change.

Australia’s energy and transport emissions since 1990, for instance, have risen by about 30% (by 2003, the latest figures released).

Total US emissions since 1990 have risen by 15.8% (up 2% since 2003, by 2004), 3 percentage points of which has happened since 2000, despite a recession and, importantly, an increasingly service driven economy.

ftp://ftp.eia.doe.gov/pub/oiaf/1605/cdrom/pdf/ggrpt/057304.pdf

By 2008, the Bush Administration will have overseen a rise of at least 6% (the total tonnage of this increase is equivalent to Australia’s total emissions today) and, through political and infrastructure investment, have locked-in further rises, refused to lead international efforts to address climate change and multiplied the costs of future efforts to reduce emissions.

Australia shouldn’t follow the Bush Administration on this issue because the US Senate, most US states and almost every other nation on earth are heading in the opposite direction.

Hasbeen,

So we’re all gunna die anyway, hmmm, so why bother with anything? I see no point in harming ourselves and I reckon your pension and your kid’s ‘real jobs’ will depend upon the degree of climate change we experience.
Posted by martin callinan, Friday, 23 December 2005 4:54:46 AM
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Shonga,

I am very confused. How can someone who obviously has so much intelligence and moral superiorty regards climate change, foreign relations, racial relations and global economic theory end up slaving away at the whim of some evil boss for decades as you have told us in previous posts.

Either you are extremely intelligent except when it comes to your own life or your are just plain wrong.

(and please, as i have asked you before - check your bloody spelling. If you can't spell, run your posts through spell check first.)

Martin - The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. The greatest trick the greenies ever pulled was convincing the world global warming exists.

Has any other doom and gloom scenario encompassed such a broad marketing agenda;

Checklist
If it is hot - global warming
If it is cold - global warming
If it floods - global warming
If there is drought - global warming
If there is a hurricane - global warming
If there is tsunami - global warming.
If George Bush sneezes - global warming

Please tell me if there is any weather event which can't be attributed to the great global warming.

Anyone would think the earth has had a flat stable temperature which has only just started changing.

Everyone talks about the weather - let's make is so every event can be linked to a phenomenon which will require a downtrun in economic productivity.

My hat goes off to you for a great campaign. Much slicker than anything ol' Rupert could conjure.

t.u.s.
Posted by the usual suspect, Friday, 23 December 2005 9:44:12 AM
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It's a great pity than so many people who use this site are unable to read well enough to understand what other people, whom they obviously hate for disagreeing with them, actually say. They are products of the left style of education, no doubt.

I would like to advise them that I'm flattered by their interest in my opinions. I cannot return the compliment however, as I have absolutley no interest in their abusive, semi-literate and uninformed rantings.

Name calling, poor spelling and the inability to put two words together in a coherent manner are a very poor basis for telling other people what to do in a forum relying on the written world. I suggest to these people that they stick to talking garbage with their drunken mates in the front bar
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 23 December 2005 10:04:51 AM
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Yes, Hasbeen. I overlooked the fact that Shonga gave me the benefit of his abuse merely for quoting someone else. That's haters for you, though.

The other intellectual giant, Steel, quoted me as saying "breathtaking inanity", which I didn't say at all. He is even dimmer that we think -he either doesn't know what quotation marks mean, or he meant to say that what I said was breathtakingly inane, in his opinion. Even though the figures I quoted were fact and not my own!

So choked up with rage is the poor fellow, that he wasted both his 2 posts in 24 hours on little old me.

Just imagine what society would be like if their fevered rantings were taken seriously. Fortunately for Austalia, they wouldn't have the wit to even cast a formal vote.
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 23 December 2005 3:38:00 PM
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