arf2000, you are right. The death penalty should not be imposed on anyone, no matter how awful their crime. Even Bali bombers. Lock them up forever to protect the community? Yes, if absolutely neccessary. But allowing governments to kill goes too far. It makes it too easy for a government to terrorise it's citizens. After all, once someone is dead, they're dead, no problem anymore, a time honoured way of dealing with people with inconvenient political ideas or even inconvenient or offensive racial characteristics.

Put simply, do our governments own even our lives? Can they, if they decide the situation justifies it, snuff us out like a candle? I don't think they should be able to. You might trust the government a lot, and think that the Singapore government is doing the right thing in this case, but do you think all governments everywhere always do the right thing?

Tennyson, don't really follow your argument, and not sure what it's all got to do with Jesus. Interesting point though, what would Jesus have thought about it all I wonder, kill or not kill?

well he would know something about capital punishment.

Guess what, ladies and gentlemen? It is "Be Kind To Heroin Pushers Week." Heroin pushers are no longer The Scum of the Earth, Polical Correctness has now transformed them into misunderstood Servants of the Public. Not only do people like Sneaky Peter and Natasha Twat Destroya want us to stand at attention in rememberance of all those heroin pushers who fell in the line of duty, they will sooner or later get around to demanding that a "Tomb of the Unknown Pusher" be erected.

Please note, Mr Mguyan is not the bad guy around here. Oh no, he is just another poor misunderstood little guy who is a victim of the real villian, the detestable John Howard.

Mirko Bagaric's mournful rant dredges up the usual phony pretence to superior moral values popular with the Chardonnay suckers. I am not a religious person, so I do not even know the name of the present Pope. But since Marco Bagaric seems to think that his personal view of what constitutes superior morality is both infallible and universal, perhaps the new Pope is Pope Bagaric?

Morality is based upon generally accepted societal values, and since there has never been a referenda on the death penalty, (because it is endorsed by the majority) claiming that opposition to the death penalty is a universal moral value is complete poppycock.

Erm, i wonder how long does paint take to dry. Oil or water base better? Anyone playing world of warcraft lately?

Ermm, thinking about death, barbaric stuff and etc etc.

I think the most barbaric thingy is the government's taxes.
Death to Taxes! Darn GST.
Next Barbaric thingy is Street Children in City Streets, government should focus more on them than spending mil$ on iraq and aghanistan war. Feed them kids. Adopt a child. Adobt a Heroin Mule. Adobt a child sex offender. Nuke the world, let the roaches rule us.
Death to Taxes!

What was i talking about...erm

Back to paint drying, maybe black paint dry faster...black will absorb heat from sunlight, therefore dries faster. White color ...erm..

To all the bleeding hearts,
What you fail to recognise is that the rules of the Singaporean Government are of no concern to the rest of the world. This is how wars actually start, because the people who think they are right which is usually both sides, cannot resist the urge to make the other side see the error of their thinking. Concern yourself with the rules in your own country. If you dont want to come under the rules of another government, stay out of their country.
Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody has one.

A last minute bid may be mounted to spare Mr Van that terrible trip to the gallows. This appeal follows the 30 appeals already launched.

Mr Van's case is an iteresting one and before we beatify him we should examine what we've been told. He was caught with heroin worth an estimated $450,000 which was to settle his brother's debt of $50,000. No doubt the $400,000 profit would've been donated to a charity. How many trips has Mr Van undertaken? And given the criminial milieu of his brother I wonder why funds weren't borrowed from one of Melbourne's delightful crime czars.

The fate that awaits Mr Van should sound a tocsin for other young people, if they're listening.

I wonder if the people of Singapore are getting a little sick and tired of Australians telling them how to administer their judicial system. It seems like imperialism isn't dead just yet.