On Sunday, Arjay told us “Jeff Kennett did what was necessary. Just firing a few fat cats was necessary to get Victoria back on an even keel.”

On Monday Arjay tells us it was "...a necessity for Jeff Kennett [to] slash and burn an inefficient Public Service".

Which Jeff Kennett is Arjay adulating?

Frankgol,you have evaded the question.Which Labor Govt sent Victoria broke in the early nineties and which Liberal Govt had to correct the debacle?

Which Labor Govt has brought NSW to the brink of collapse in times of economic prosperity?Now what sort of moronic fools can destroy the richest and most prosperous state in the country and still won't reform their wasteful,bloated public sector?

Are you trying to tell me that socialist's Govts have a good economic track record?You draw a very long bow indeed.

Arjay,
- suppose for the sake of argument that I agree with your ahistorical claims about economic (mis)management and
- suppose I accept your assumption that economic prosperity (or lack thereof) is soley attributable to reigning political parties in the states in question:
how am I going to explain to my children the current economic prosperity in WA and Queensland under Labor governments?

But let's take the debate a little further. Are you saying that the economy is an end in itself or could you agree that it is just one of a range of important indicators of social well-being? Could it be, for example, that Victorians slashed and burned Jeff Kennett because he was fixated on big business and the top end of town and failed to see that people also need and want (and are prepard to pay taxes for) high quality community services, health and education?

Arjay,
The answer to my previous question many posts ago was the Fraser Government double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, ah! yes the Liberals know how to run an economy, will interest rates rise today for the 7th time in 4 years, causing more havoc than in 1989? Don't worry about economies, we the Liberals know economies.

You're right to a degree Shonga.There is a lot I don't like about the Coalition.I don't like the fact that they are subserviant to the multi-nationals and treat small business as a stepping stone to be used used and abused.My greatest critism is that this Govt has lacked courage to do innovative things that will make Australia a far more dynamic country.This so called level playing field whereby we lower our tarrifs and most of our competitors don't,is total insanity.The Keating/Hawke Govts had exactly the same philosophies towards this one sided stupidity.

I think that one of the main reasons for this interest rate rise is to stop us consuming foreign goods.We are not paying our own way,and to have an almost non existant manufacturing sector.Our balance of payments deficit is now over $400 billion,or $40,000 for every working person.We have borrowed too much and now our spending will be reigned in.

It may well mean another recession,our first for 15yrs. The Libs are far from perfect,however they are light years ahead of the opposition.It is a shame that Labor are in such poor shape,since we would all have benefited if the Libs actually had real competition.

Arjay, perhaps yu missed my last post in which I said:
- suppose for the sake of argument that I agree with your ahistorical claims about economic (mis)management and
- suppose I accept your assumption that economic prosperity (or lack thereof) is soley attributable to reigning political parties in the states in question:
how am I going to explain to my children the current economic prosperity in WA and Queensland under Labor governments?

But let's take the debate a little further. Are you saying that the economy is an end in itself or could you agree that it is just one of a range of important indicators of social well-being? Could it be, for example, that Victorians slashed and burned Jeff Kennett because he was fixated on big business and the top end of town and failed to see that people also need and want (and are prepard to pay taxes for) high quality community services, health and education?