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The problems with vilification legislation : Comments
By Bill Muehlenberg, published 7/9/2005Bill Muehlenberg argues vilification laws are a threat to freedom of speech.
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Posted by Philo, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 6:37:24 PM
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Philo, you assume to much, we live in a ever developing democracy based on growing forms of civic renewal, participation and the building knowledge.
If we are serious about any of this than "revenge" as you suggest, is not part of the equation. What do you think about "bystander apathy"? Do you think there is no such thing....? How do you overcome it, in the light of prohibiting verbal and psychological vilification and abuse? Posted by miacat, Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:44:07 AM
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Miacat,
Are you working on a civil engineering project? Your language is so confusing, I doubt if anyone can intelligently understand what you are talking about. What is meant by: Quote, "we live in a ever developing democracy based on growing forms of civic renewal, participation and the building knowledge." You say you are living in a developing democracy - Where? Iraq? The Victorian vilification legislation reduces democracy not develop it. Why is it for you that legal revenge is the only option? Can you define what you mean by "bystander apathy"? Perhaps part of your problem is your poor skills in communication. I cannot understand what you mean by the following sentences. Please explain! Quote, "What do you think about "bystander apathy"? Do you think there is no such thing....? How do you overcome it, in the light of prohibiting verbal and psychological vilification and abuse? Posted by Philo, Thursday, 29 September 2005 8:42:41 PM
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Philo
Miacat has a wesite, vis a vis: www.miacat.com Says a lot mate. Cheerio Kay Posted by kalweb, Thursday, 29 September 2005 9:14:51 PM
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Thanks Kalweb,
I had a look at the site, http://www.miacat.com/UN_MiaSpeak_2.htm but I cannot see how funds to take a case for vilification against another party can help the project. Such would not operate on the good will of local community but on some level of hostility. Not a good basis for its future prosperity. Posted by Philo, Friday, 30 September 2005 7:21:35 AM
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"What we need is to educate people's conscience to act responsibly..."
Philo, you had said your family had to move because of a situation that was happening... I do not like to see this happen and work to promote a society that doesn't force people to feel they must move out of their choosen community like this. It does not make it right because it is easier - to do this. I have no community project - connected to a specific vilification issue. I live in a remote community whereby a selected few control a majority - by the ways they bully and vilify others in a resource scarce environment. The situation is socially very strained. This is a known phenomena, in many small communities. Often it is only a problem of education awareness where there is a lack of good conscience, or understanding being exersised by the few. However until more is done to combat the problem, people are being seriously affected. A vilification law allows people to attempt to stand-up if they can and have it out in a safe space - where the issues may be mediated and sorted. Sometimes a law - as a resource, can offer this opportunity - if a person (people are prepared to through with it) I understand what you are saying Philo, but I feel you are only considering one side of the coin. A form of bystander apathy is the "I'm okay you're okay" mentally. Where people stand watching someone being targeted by bullies - and do nothing. The is a very good article on this forum called "Not so innocent bystanders" - http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=30 - I was hoping you had seen it. Posted by miacat, Friday, 30 September 2005 10:38:11 AM
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There are laws already that give protection to persons harrassed in the workplace. As I suggested you may seek advice at the local Chamber Magistrate based at your local Court House. However be aware you may be too sensitive to the anger of some colleague. I suggest you seek a Magistrates advice, if he assesses you have a worthy case he will advise action.
I grew as a young child in a small Catholic village on the mid Coast of NSW and I was not a Catholic, so faced constant threats for not going to Scripture from the other children. My parents found it better to have us move than face the persecution. This experience taught me to tolerate difference not to seek revenge.