Yeah, I’ve gone fishing. It’s alright, a bit stinky though. But I’m no hunter. Just because it’s an ‘important facet of natural human behaviour’ doesn’t mean it’s for everyone. For example: creativity and by extension, art, is a natural human endeavour too, but not everyone is creative.

Mmm no, my position on violence is not that humans should stop being human. When I talk about an end to violence, I’m not talking tomorrow, next week or in a few years. I’m talking about society evolving over massive periods of time, gradually improving with each step. I’m looking at a much bigger picture here, from the time humans became human, through to the drop of the ocean that’s our society today, and beyond. Like I said: dreamer.

No need to patronise, like I keep saying, I’m aware that violence is inherent in humanity. Want me to say it again? I’m aware that violence is inherent in humanity. So you don’t need to keep telling me, ok? Thanks.

Steeper each year is not what exponential means, mr intellectual capacity. Exponential is like this: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, so on. Some quick maths: If there was just one criminal in 1950, and criminals increased exponentially every year, there would be 144115188075855872 criminals today.

Mmm, yeah immigrants are responsible for this physically impossible rise in crime, of course. Of course they all come from countries where crime is really common and everyone does it, so they don’t know any better, like China and the UK. I went to the UK and every single person was a violent criminal! We really should stop letting all those sneaky foreigners in, they do NOTHING for the economy and NEVER do well in education institutions. I personally join you in blaming everyone different for societies ills. If nothing else, it's easy.

The death penalty has its place, not in Australia. Thailand for example, hands out pamphlets on the plane enxplaining the consequences. Its not just sprung on people, they are generally trying to make a profit out of peoples misery. I think the fairer option would be to make these people consume the contraband that they are carrying. O.K. Schapelle would be there for a while trying to smoke 10 pounds of personal, but those lowlifes trying to smuggle heroin would find things harder.
So one person (or nine) straps quantities of drugs to their body, gets caught, cries foul about foreign laws. No harm in trying...
If they got through, cut the stuff and sold it, how many would die from that? they'd make a profit, and probably do it again.
This creates an industry of misery and theft and prostitution and all other kinds of social problems.
Compared to that bullets are cheap.

You might be interested to know that your sainted peace prophet who wrote your theme song “Imagine” has been called a wife beater by his ex wife. Seems that he did not live up to the high ideals that he never tired of pontificating towards everybody else.

The crime graphs published in “Rising Crime in Australia” show that almost every category of violent crime is getting steeper each year. The book was published in 1999 and they are probably going straight up by now. And yes, immigration has a lot to do with that.

If you ever stopped tranquilizing your brain and started researching, you might find a few facts which might jerk you out of your dreamtime. These facts are contrary to your dreamy philoshophy and you will wish they were not true. The NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics ( Bulletin, issue 57, page 4) clearly states that 55% of the handgun murders in the entire state of NSW occur within the precincts of two notorious ethnic ghettoes. If that does not indicate to you the values (or lack of them) of some of Australia’s recently arrived immigrant groups, then I don’t think that reasoned thought can permeate your marijuana sizzled brain.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics ‘Prisoners in Australia” (march 2002) is another source which clearly displays that people from several notorious ethnic groups are very much over represented in serious criminal behaviour. Finally, there is NSW Police Sergeant Tim Priests book, “To Protect and To Serve” which relates the degree of serious ethnic criminal behaviour in NSW and the attempts by self seeking NSW politicians to conceal the truth from the public about it’s extent.

But doing a bit of research and thinking is very hard when your brain is traumatized and seriously under utilized. So I can understand that thinking straight may be a bit beyond your capacity at this time.

I’ll take John’s word over Yoko’s, thanks red.

‘they are probably going straight up by now’
Now, what are you basing that on, red? If crime was really rising that fast, don’t you think that news would be plastered across every front page? Cause…that’s pretty big news…

The reality is, certain types of crime are on the rise, and others are on the decline - the same as it’s always been. One thing that’s for certain is that right now is nowhere near the most dangerous time in history, even in the history of this country.

So, with those figures about immigrants and crime…what is it exactly that you’re saying? That ‘ethnic’ groups are responsible for more crime? What’s your solution? Gas em?

Yes, there are questionable values of SOME of Australia’s immigrants (your words). There are also questionable values of SOME of Australia’s citizens who have been here their whole lives. It’s an arbitrary distinction. You could also say that because most of the criminals are poor, all poor should be viewed with suspicion. It’s PREJUDICE, and there you are saying that I’M the one with no reason? I think you’ve spent too much time in the sun.

Jeez, what well rounded research you’ve done, too. 55% of ‘handgun’ murders. Never mind the murders that are done other ways, never mind the killings that aren’t premeditated, never mind you can only find a (seemingly) significant statistic in one state. You’ve found a percentage that supports your racist views and you’re sticking with it.

Hahah 0WN3D LOLZ!! How about we agree to disagree, huh? Our opinions aren’t about to change any time soon.

And PS: For the last time, I am aware of crime!! I'm also aware of environmental destruction, of human rights abuses around the world, of slave labour, corruption from those in power, blah blah blah. But I guess those things aren't as important to you as the suspicious looking lebanese guy on the corner, right?

Crime has nothing to do with ethnicity, it's to do with environment in which we live. So blame the Government for allowing (promoting even) these "ethnic ghettos". Why should we put up with these pockets of squalor with poor infrastructure? If we were all more spread out and intermingling, there'd be less crime.

An example of where these stats may not reflect reality: A service policeman that works in the Penrith area recently told me that asians don't report domestic violence, since it's perceived as losing face to involve the police.

ps: how do we know Yoko isn't fibbing?

Concern about rising crime rates in NSW has become such an issue that almost every state election has become a law and order election. Only last week Sydney had 22 armed robberies in 24 hours, a new record which is stretching the capacity of the NSW Police to protect our community. If you claim that some types of crime are declining, please tell me what types are declining so that I can throw your wishful thinking right back in your face.

My figures about ethnic crime simply point out that certain ethnic groups are very disproportionately responsible for serious spates of violent criminal behaviour. What we do about it is up to the Australian people. Personally, I do not think that people from these ethnic groups should be allowed into this country because of their unacceptably high rates of criminal behaviour. And I do not agree that poverty is a major factor today in crime. Lucy Clarke’s book “Rising Crime in Australia” made the point that criminal behaviour in Australia was at it’s lowest during the Great Depression, ironically when we were at our poorest. Similarly, rates of serious violent criminal behaviour are skyrocketing during a time when the Western world has undergone a period of unprecedented prosperity. If poverty causes crime, then crime should be falling, not rising.

I would also point out that there is nothing wrong with prejudice because we all do it. Even you claimed that I have “spent too much time in the sun.” THAT, my dear Spendocrat, is prejudice. You can not wag your finger at me over a contrived moral issue and then hypocritically do it yourself in the next sentence.

And thank you, my figures do indeed back up my racist attitudes. They also happen to be true. So you have the problem justifying your misplaced humanitarian ideals while I am quite comfortable knowing that I have the valid argument that backs up what I say.