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By David Knoll, published 17/5/2005David Knoll argues Radio National was airing anti-Semitic views when Jews were commemorating the 60th anniversary of the liberation from death camps.
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Posted by Penekiko, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 8:52:40 AM
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The complaints aired in this article can be reduced to a simple response based on one short statement made by the author
Quoting from the article - "The role of Radio National in airing important issues for public debate is a vital one. ...... In this instance, regrettably what was being aired was the promulgation of recognisable anti-Semitism." The first part of the quote may well be appropriate and pertinent however the second part of the quote "...the promulgation of recognisable anti-Semitism." Is simple subjective opinion viewed from someone with, possibly, a less than objective interest in the proceedings. I ask, would what was aired have been "recognisable anti-Semitism" if it had been aired at any other time or just because it was aired at this particular time? If it were because of "timing" - I suggest Radio National should be a predominantly secular institution with no duty or responsibility to observe the particular significance of any religious calendar. If it was not timing but the content which the author claimed as "recognisable anti-Semitism", we enter the arena of subjective opinion. The "price" of censorship is far more expensive in terms of both individual and social degeneration than any individual expressing a personally held view or opinion. It is in the interests of everyone to hear the views which oppose their own and make no attempt to suppress the free expression of that view - regardless of "timing" - certainly if the listener wishes to be better equipped to deal with the consequences of that opposing view and, of course, one is never sure when "our view" will be the "opposing view" required to be suppressed. To quote Voltaire - "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire got it right - either way, David Knoll - you have it wrong! Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 9:39:25 AM
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I really hate to have to repeat this type of rebuttal. But again "Josh" and "Penekiko" trot a lot of old tired rhetoric about "the Jews" having some kind of special power in business and the media.
If we applied this type of (il)logic to the Palestinians, we'd have to come to the conclusion that _THEY_ run the international media and financial systems, given the attention to their issue by the media, far out of proportion to their numbers, and far and away greater (proportionally) than that given to the plight of other refugee groups with legitimate nationalist aspirations. This applies to to the international aid they receive, pre-capita far higher than many other needy groups. Where is the aid and media stories for Western Sahara, occupied by Morocco for decades in defiance of UN Security Council resolutions? Tibet, occupied by China for 50 years? I could cite numerous other examples, but I think you get my point. The other libelous slur (I'm sorry, but this is what this type of lie is) is the one about "what have the Jews done for victims of other genocides?" It doesn't take much digging to learn that Jewish organisations and politicians have taken leading roles in trying to achieve action to relieve the suffering of Muslims and others in the manmade tragedies of Bosnia and Sudan and in the natural disaster of the Asian tsunami. Where were their Arab brethren during their suffering? Why is it that Christian and Jewish NGO's, and Western infidels in general, have done more for these people than the extremely-wealthy Arabs? The Palestinians have a legitimate right to self-determination, enshrined in many of the same UN resolutions that affirm that right for the Jews of Israel. But remember too that between 1948 and 1967 Eqypt and Jordan occupied the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, respectively, and never once even talked about granting the Palestinians a state in these zones in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 181. Or did I miss something? Posted by W_Howard, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 9:47:31 AM
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I am not a conspiracy theorist for Jewish people having disproportional control over the world. But, it is historical fact that many Jews became weathly and this is what makes them relevent in the eyes of governments. So when they wanted to reclaim their land (self determination) they had the resources and political leverage to do it. I am not denying them their right to self determination by any means possible, just pointing out that out of dozens of similar cases only the Jews are allowed by the international community to be resettled in such a dramatic fashion. What about the Kurds, the Palestinians and plenty of other races who have collectively suffered genocide and occupation. Either genocide is still occuring or occupation is still occuring or occupation is over but their country is ruined.
That is the main point. I made a point before which has probably been thought of as racist. The sentiment was "All jews in Israel are responsible for their government's action" I still believe this but I will explain as well. Jews in Israel and some other non Jewish Israelis fall into one of three camps: A) They actively support their Government's actions B) They are silent (one of the elements which made Nazi Germany so strong) C) They ineffectually actively oppose their Government's policies. In this hats off to them, but by remaining in the country they contribute to the government's revenue and therefore should leave. As an Australian citizen living in a non-liberal 'democracy' (it doesn't have Condorcet voting) I am partly responsible for their evil actions. But I try to be not all that hypocritical about it and the evils of the goverment I live under are much smaller to those of most other countries. Posted by Penekiko, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 2:18:27 PM
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Running around crying that the sky is falling whilst crying wolf just makes people stop listening and quite skeptical about one's credibility.
Funny, how one can call an arab Semite an anti-semite. Ahhh... Anti-semtitic Semites. And Isreali's who call for a moderate policy toward Palestinians are labelled as 'self hating' Jews. What a big yawn. Many of us don't care and when you are really under threat you will find it very difficult to get us to start believing you. Posted by trade215, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 3:45:24 PM
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Fundamentalism is the last resort of the desparate and morally corrupt.
In the words of Zionist political thinker Moses Hess, “Jews are not a religious group, but a separate nation, a special race, and the modern Jew who denies this is not only an apostate, a religious renegade, but a traitor to his people, his tribe, his race.” http://bitterfact.tripod.com/israel/zionism.html Hitler uttered similar words. Posted by Rainier, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 5:03:05 PM
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The only racist genocide condoning hypocrite here is the author. Especially about all of that stuff about the Jews being special, as you point many many other peoples have suffured the same but they don't hold international clout with buisness and government around the world.
But as to the solution to the problem at hand which is what to do with the whole middle east and the people in it. Apart from the obvious initial steps I don't know, does anybody else?