Robert and Ringtail,

From what I understand, there did exist an agreement between Susie Zhang and her employer that she would wear a mini skirt in the gaming area.

Her main complaint was that it amounted to sex discrimination on the basis that it made her feel like a sex object, and that another woman employed in the same area was not also made to wear a mini-skirt.

I think the point of the article is that although there may have been legitimate legal grounds on which the decision was based, the comments made by the magistrate in his judgment about Zhang wearing a mini-skirt socially and having posed in FHM were deeply inappropriate. This is especially so after the furore that arose out of similarly inappropriate comments being made by the Muslim cleric.

Thanks margs, for the clarification. Its that old attitude again where women are judged as mere objects based on a limited view. For example the judge a view years ago who declared that a woman wouldn't be so troubled by rape because she worked as a prostitute. Ignoring the whole choice, power, autonomy aspect. When are attitudes like this going to die out?

Well I have to say that I am impressed by some of the male posters to this forum like Robert, even though we don't always agree at least we can communicate. Thanks to those guys out there who are trying to make an effort to understand. AW, I've gorn all mushy.

Timkins, did not mean to insult you about locking your daughters up in the attic. NO offence intended and can't substantiate with a hyperlink to a bad Virginia Andrews novel. Just a bit of mucking around re slip, slop, slap.

As the previous poster said, this forum has, I think,, done some mighty nice sharing stuff and now maybe see it differently from sharing our views and being quite open. I know i do. Don't get too excited David BOAZ on the Damscus stuff I said before, it was purely what if. Now I'm climbing into my thigh high leather stilleto boots, with fishnet stockings and a cheeky satin corset (Calvin Klien of course) with a cherry on top and my untamed, wild mane of tousled blonde hair blowing in the wind, whilst I ride, on a big black stallion (natch!) into the horizon, into another forum..... (I once wrote a romance novel, sorry! can't help it)

Di, ur a character, I hope all that colorful attire portrayal was imaginary, I don't find anything very exciting about it, but then again, I'm just a wowser goody 2 shoes conservative who has no life :)
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I might collaborate with you one day on a 'romantic' novel (but not a romance novel) where the setting is the steamy tropical South China sea and surrounding Islands. But my main claim to fame story wise is that I once got dysentary, and had to drop my dacks in front of a mixed crowd of about 30 people, while being carried to the river edge on the way to hospital, where in the middle of the river (which was flooded) with logs and debris floating by, and the overwhelming darkness, our motor suddenly fell into the drink ! Drifting....drifting.... out of control..

but wait...theres MORE, but you'll have to buy the book 0_- :)

Glad to see you can inject some humor into the discourse.

Ringtail, thanks for the kind words. I'm a strong believer in trying to build understanding and find the forums great for that.

Di, is that scene available on DVD? Thanks for your injection of humour into the discussion. I'd certainly prefer to see your scene than David's (effective story telling though David and it might make an interesting painting).

Are we going for the 100 posts award here? This forum is starting to remind me of Coronation Street or The Bold & The Beautiful. ;) Timkins, which one are you? The Bold or tthe Beautiful? ;)