Kaetein,
What you are saying about contraception is extremely important and cannot be taken lightly. You are describing contraception in negative terms, while many other sources of information normally describe female contraception as being “safe”.

Because of this I believe you must reference your descriptions of female contraception to an official or medical source, otherwise it could be regarded as a type of fear mongering or brainwashing that may stop women from taking contraception.

In terms of this article, it only considers a few small aspects of abortion, and is hardly any reason why a woman should consider abortion.

In a count of words in the article at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=3090#3564

“Child” was mentioned 1 time
“Fathers” 0 times
Government funding 22 times.

The article is stock standard feminist literature, and I think the above list gives an indication of how feminists think, and what their priorities are.

Sorry Morg, I thought I addressed that.. I'm too used to the background of what I utter being familiar in my own mind and I tend to assume too much.
Ok.. when some missionaries went to China, they started to give rice to those who converted. Very quickly people were 'converted' but to get rice, not salvation.

Rice musicians are those who are in reality secular, but who get on the 'Chrisitan music' bandwagon just to make money from it. The phrase only has meaning against the background of the previous mentioned thing in China. Now you know why Grace Pettigrew calls me a muddle headed wombat :)

Thanks for the explanation, David. I get it now... interesting concept. Not sure how pertinent it is to the topic though!

Morgan

MOrgan your prophetic call 'back to the topic' is noted and appreciated :) I do tend to just go with the flow of where threads lead.
You suggested an approach which took all views into consideration, a kind of 'middle ground' approach. But while this is commendable if one is dealing with industrial relations, I feel its a different deal about human life and its definition.
Once a child is conceived, I believe it is a child. I can't get beyond that in my head, when I try, I know its for selfish reasons.
Its probably best just to let the various sides fight it out democratically, and last man standing gets his view up :)

Well, Anne O'Rourke seems to have it wrong again. Put simply, she cannot see men (the wood) for the feminist (trees). How unfortunate it is when feminist indoctrination has eliminated the male in the abortion debate. Surely, the father should have a say in the abortion process? After all, 50% of the child's make-up is derived from the sperm.

As others have pointed out, until the father is given a say, and as soon as the rampant feminist rot is put aside from the true issue at stake - a life - then we will have made some, albeit minor, progress.

British politics aside, here’s an example of why mandatory DNA matching should be standard procedure for each birth certificate - http://smh.com.au/news/World/Blunketts-row-with-exlover-reignited-over-child/2005/03/06/1110044250881.html

And yes, of course fathers should have equal right of choice – if forcing a woman to carry a child to term is deemed inhumane, then surely forcing a man into fatherhood is also wrong.