Morgan
homosexual behavior is just one of a number of 'sins' to which I'm sure people in 'the church' as u would say it, are prone, as is anyone. I note a Vermont south secondary teacher has just been jailed for a rather adventurous threesome with 2 teenage girls he taught.. well humanity is frail, we are always torn between the 'flesh' and the 'spirit' or as a secular person might say 'The conscience'.
When such things are found in a member of any Church it is truly a sad day. They lose so much more than a typical secular person loses. Its called 'Their testimony' (much more than mere reputation) and I assure you, that to lose that is a dark moment in ones life. One would have to be extremely naive to suggest church members are above such things. To be Christian is to walk with God, but our lower nature sometimes lures us into 'greener' pathways, which always turn out to be empty. Not all those who name the name of Christ as Savior, live under His continual Lordship, we are human. Sinners, redeemed by Grace, not perfect now (and never will be), but pressing on towards it as we give over more of our lives and hearts to His rule.

Wow! Divinity in our midst! Grace, can you please redeem my sins once you're done with David?

Hallelujah! Praise the lord and pass the salt!

Morganzola - Hail to the voters of WA, for they are full of grace, and have repelled the evil forces of homophobia!

Boaz - it was a great weekend, hope you addagoodone2

Grace.. u will love this one :)

Isaiah did not win popularity contests in his day, nor would he win any now, but his message is still just as sharp.

Isaiah 5.20
20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness,

who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.

22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks,

23 who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent.

24 Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames,

so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust;

for they have rejected the law of the LORD Almighty."


I worked pretty much most of the weekend, except for practicing for a fun run next saturday.

But back to the TOPIC....

What we need to 'keep the bastards honest' is an ISAIAH party.... one with the same prinicples. Perhaps we should call it the 'prophetic' party ? hmmmmm... One of the classics is Amos, he points out all the sins of the nations surrounding Israel, one by one, in a clockwise direction, and u can see the heads of the Leaders of the Israelites all knodding in agreement, and perhaps a few 'Yes.. preach ..go for it !!" from the crowd...then finally, he focuses and homes in on THEM.

The prophets spoke with divine authority, because they called the nation back to righteousness, even (or especially) the kings. Hence we have one king

7 But Jehoshaphat asked, "Is there not a prophet of the LORD here whom we can inquire of?"

8 The king of Israel answered Jehoshaphat, "There is still one man through whom we can inquire of the LORD , but I hate him because he never prophesies anything good about me, but always bad. He is Micaiah son of Imlah.

If ever we needed unpleasant news, from a prophet..it is now. We need that call, that rebuke, that pronouncement "This is the way, walk in it"

Jumping Jehoshaphat! Thanks, David - I always wanted to write that but I didn't know how to spell it :)

Don't you think you're laying on the woe and recrimination a bit thick? Do you do self-flagellation as well?

Morgan