I agree there also Trade,

If the father does what the mother tells him, then he is “gorgeous”, and if he doesn’t, then he is "not gorgeous”.

I suppose the system is straightforward enough, but that would be the only thing that such a system has to recommend it

Well said Trade. You should submit for publication an opinion piece of your own.

Trade
your comment about 'others move in on the legacy of the founders' is classic :) and so true.
How many movements begin with wonderful ideals only to be hijacked by manipulative and opportuntistic people. The left is the classic for this.
If they see something which looks like an issue, they will be there with THEIR BANNERS to make it look like its about them. Or simply use the thing to advance their own profile.

Case in point religion.

Trade said "Calling for government and employer 'support' is not inconsistent with the Robin Hood, social welfare state, entitlement atitude that pervades mature western economies. Same old crying that someone esle should support my choices, my life. For reasons a,b,c,1,2 and 3.

If you choose a family then you can support your own decisions. Expecting taxpayers and employers to pay for your choices because taxpayers 'benefit' or have some sort of 'social responsibility/con-tract' or an employer should pay because they gave you a job strikes me as quite disempowering... the first rule of which is taking responsiblity for our own decisions."

I think your out of touch here maybe your an American anarchist. Both side of politics here think it a prudent way the encourage fertility rates

Kenny,

l have European genes and a goverment issued piece of paper (birth certificate) with the Australian coat of arms on it. l do not accept that those things define me nor how l see myself. l determine that for myself based on my own contemplations.

Agreed. l am out of touch with the two party political paradigm. l dont realy care what the politicians say. In fact these days l see them as a constant source of self serving amusement. They are a study in mass manipulation. l take what they say, if at all, on its merits. It is not enough for me that they are saying it or agree with each other. Authority alone does not convince me of anything, other than to be cautious and suspicious of their true intent. Just because a pack of lemmings is heading for a cliff, in blissful agreement, does not stop me from looking at where they are headed and deciding if l want to join them. Once upon a time, the consensus was that Columbus and Galileo were 'out of touch.' l would rather be of their mindset than those that are 'in touch.'

l am more of an anarchist in the spirit of say Ned Kelly.

I hope not Trade215 Ned Kelly was a murdering criminal!
As far as employer's having to supply more then just wages it is simply a case of coming full circle. Employer traditional in most communities look after all aspect of it's employee lives. Hopefully this time round we don't go as far as serfdom.
PS.
As far as Columbus is concerned the fact that the world was round had been know for centuries it was a matter of religious dogma that it wasn’t. Columbus was wrong in the sense that he believe he was off the china. The map he had acquired was a copy of a copy and incorrect. As for Galileo the people working in his field were generally thinking along his lines as is usually the case it was those ignorant of the facts that believe he was wrong..