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The fertility debate: Speaking up for the 'Gorgeous Men' : Comments

By Leslie Cannold, published 9/2/2005

Leslie Cannold argues that our low fertility rate is a cause for concern for both men and women.

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Lets make a pact that we simply ignore and not respond to seeker and timmy.
Posted by Kenny, Thursday, 10 February 2005 10:38:11 AM
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Thanks anti-timkins and seeker drivel. Agreed on the pact, but I can only extend myself to ignoring Timkins - who is like the McDonalds of anti-women rhetoric, ever-present, poorly and too quickly prepared, has a guaranteed and un-changing menu and totally lacking in nutritional content - but Seeker, on occasion, has made some relevant points.
Posted by Audrey, Thursday, 10 February 2005 11:30:51 AM
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Kenny and Audrey, like Groucho Marx I cannot join a club, so I will reserve my right to throw a bomb in occasionally.

And you can be sure that Timothy and Seeker won't go away, because they have nowhere to go...Timithy has already advised us elsewhere that he has been assigned a mission to destroy feminism, or something. Pity the poor OLO editors and authors who are watching their website forums degenerate into such a pathetic farce...

Kenny, please don't give up entirely, your guerilla warfare has had me laughing out loud in the past, you too Audrey
Posted by grace pettigrew, Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:07:31 PM
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Who is this mysterious one-post fearless liberator who calls themselves “Anti Timkins and Seeker Drivel”?

Interesting tactic, but somewhat gutless in using a pseudo pseudonym. Frankly, I thought everyone already ignored my drivel. Apparently not.

I can’t speak for Timkins, but I’ll try to be a more interesting person from now on. That includes being more manly and strong. Taking it on the chin so to speak, or in the groin as Grace would obviously prefer. Perhaps Grace would even prefer that I self-administer, as she does use “psychotic” in the same phrase. Hey, if that “Rugby nutter” in yesterday’s SMH, can do it … http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/08/1107625213777.html

“The 'poor me' mentality of men of your calibre makes me frustrated and disappointed in my gender.”
Thank you “Anti Timkins and Seeker Drivel” for helping me become a stronger person, by beating the victimhood out of me. I wonder if that same approach may work on the wider community. What is your gender by the way?

Thanks Audrey, I hope I don’t disappoint too much.

Kenny, ummm … I already ignore you, so you are welcome to return the favour. Must admit, you can be pretty funny at times, and I too enjoy a laugh. It is unintentional, no doubt.

:-)
Posted by Seeker, Thursday, 10 February 2005 9:20:32 PM
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Welcome to the human race seeker.
Posted by grace pettigrew, Thursday, 10 February 2005 10:00:33 PM
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Hi Seeker,
Did you see the cartoon in the Australian today, about a woman killing her husband.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/opindex/0,9320,opinion%255E%255ETEXT,00.html

Charming. I bet there will be a lot of women in this forum writing letters to the editor complaining about that cartoon, or perhaps I cannot see the “satire” in it, with so much domestic violence legislation being directed at males.

I have had another read of the article and it only confirms my initial suspicions that the author is speaking in “forked tongues”. She starts the article by mentioning her book, (which left out fathers), then in the first few paragraphs she maligns males. This is probably out of habit as you have mentioned previously.

But from then on she describes what she considers to be a “gorgeous” father. However a closer inspection of this shows that a “gorgeous” father is merely someone who does what the mother says and wants. Most of the article is about work and earning money etc, but “love” is mentioned once. But this is only when the male has to love and commit to the woman. (eg. “single men exist who are willing to commit to women they love”) Nowhere in the article does she mention that a woman should love and commit to the man. So to be a “gorgeous” male, it is all one way.

The author also uses a number of unethical techniques often used by feminists within the article, and overall I think the article no different to many others that have been written That is now my thoughts, but you may have other ideas on it.

As I have mentioned previously yesterday, it would have been an interesting book if it were titled “What, No Baby: why women and men have lost the freedom to be parents and how they can get it back “ This is because of the “parental responsibility” vs “parental rights” issue, and whether parents will have many rights in the future.
Posted by Timkins, Thursday, 10 February 2005 10:32:15 PM
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