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Potty mouths : Comments

By Alexander Deane, published 21/9/2005

Alex Deane says that giving primary school children a quota for swearing is wrong.

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BOAZ_David

I found your last post interesting. Isn't it sad that a woman's vagina can be connoted with something that is filthy - as in the "c" word? I will never understand that. And I also cannot understand why some males call other males f'ing cs. What does that mean?

I am not a wowzer even though I was reared in a Christian household where swearing was forbidden.

As a mental health nurse I have nursed people from all levels of the social spectrum. And believe me, that's when swearing crosses no barriers - including Nuns and Priests in a psychotic state using fs and cs. Very sad really, because when they became well and remembered their illness state, they were filled with remorse and guilt - and never understanding where such stuff came from.

I have always accepted bad language when people are in an acute illness stage, but when they are recovering, that's when I put the brakes on. I say things like: "When you were so very ill, you were not responsible for what you were saying. Now that you are recovering I no longer accept your foul language. I am not employed in a caring relationship to be abused. If you continue to use abusive language towards me or others, I will ignore you. It's as simple as that. You have rights yes - but that does not include a right to use foul language to abuse me". Almost always worked.

I used the f word far regularly some years back. Now I just think that swearing shows poor taste and is basically a waste of oxygen.

I think that there is a fair amount to deep seated anger and/or hate when people repeatedly use fs and cs as part of their normal vocabulary.

I was talking with my mother last night. She was washing my nieces' clothing. She found a note when cleaning out pockets prior to laundering items. Our 13 years old had notes from others - all filled with fs and cs. Sickening isn't it?

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 25 September 2005 7:11:24 PM
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The decline of Britain as an economic power goes further back than Col Rouge suggests. It can be traced as far back as the early 20th century when the US overtook it as the world's major economic power. Labour governments of the late 40s, early 50s and 70s are but blips compared to this much larger socio-economic process.

In regard to declining moral standards, which is at the heart of Alex Deane's article, my main point was to suggest the ways of thinking and social mores under Thatcher (and Major and Blair for that matter) has been much more influential on school children than the left counterculture and political movements of the 60s and 70s. Why? Because the children of today have grown up or are growing up in the 1980s onwards. Put it this way. I was born in 1964. The social values in 1970s Australia has had far more influence that World War II or the Great Depression on my way of thinking.

Too often on this forum, people blame things they don't like that are happening now on the 60s. This is getting less and less tenable as time goes by. To put it another way, "greed is good" is more influential on today's children and young adults than "the personal is political" because the former is closer chronologically to the here and now.
Posted by DavidJS, Monday, 26 September 2005 8:26:36 AM
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BOAZ - nah, it totally does. It's awsome. So expressive and colourful, applicable in a million circumstances and always straight to the point. Not that many words are so immediately effective and universally understandable.

'newsflash'? What are you, in primary school?
Posted by spendocrat, Monday, 26 September 2005 9:02:04 AM
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Exactly kay :)

Poor spendo will most likely be in a home and under your care due to hyper vocal activity saying lots but little :)

Spendo, ur a baddd boy..goto ur room and think about that :)
and if u still have ur potty mouth when you have 'reflected' u will see me reaching for the chille sauce..grrrrrr :)

How was the weekend ? I had a good one. Though verrrrry stressed over my son who sucked up to me last week to zip off to Japan for the 'weekend'.. aarggggggggggggggggh... (also sucked up for about half his plane fare.. mumbles.) He didn't give me any phone number to contact there, his mobile wont work there, and he told me that he got an email in Singpore (during his 2 hour transit stop) which totally changed the meeting place. "We wont meet you at the airport, but u catch a train to such and such a place and meet us under the 7 story building like a 'chic'. Myyyyyyy goodness.. there were enough 'what if's in my head about this I could fill a britanica.

Fortunately, all went well and he comes back "I had the best time dad" 2night.

Ok.. gloves are now off...back to the battle :)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 26 September 2005 9:40:54 AM
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Does anyone know the derivation of the old maxim: "Spare the rod and spoil the child"?
Posted by Pilgrim, Monday, 26 September 2005 4:25:37 PM
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DavidJS “The decline of Britain as an economic power goes further back than Col Rouge suggests. It can be traced as far back as the early 20th century when the US overtook it as the world's major economic power. Labour governments of the late 40s, early 50s and 70s are but blips compared to this much larger socio-economic process.”

Oh David, lets not split hairs over such matters.

If you want to compare the real decline of Britain – it “started” in 1776 when, what was to ultimately become the core of USA, ceded from dear old King Georges Sovereign possession (Sure India and Australia had barely been added to the “Empire” but the "decline" definitely started when the “American colonies“ won independence (and not without a few drops of blood being spilt).

Britain remained the hub of trade, innovation and financial services (regardless of USA’s capacity to produce with economies of scale for what ended up a significantly larger domestic demand), for a long time after

Oh, if you want to know about "socio-economic process" I suggest start to figure the EEC - one reason for it was to eliminate inter-state differences and thus "compete" with common market population statistics with USA.

However, that in no way excuses or reduces the negative influence of the lies and delusions of socialism and the corrosive effects they had on British economic performance and individual standards of living, let alone “terms of trade” (– which fell into the abyss under Wilson and Callaghan).

As for “This is getting less and less tenable as time goes by” –
You have a choice – suffer or desist – Not everyone thinks what you post is sacrosanct and inviolate and I for one will not acquiesce to any such piffle regardless of its “tenability”.

DavidBOAZ - being called "Dad" is one of the best things in the world - my girls and I plus our respective partners went to see "Wallace & Grommit" on Friday night as a group - great "family" time.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 26 September 2005 6:30:42 PM
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