What happened to not negotiating with terrorists?

Uncle Donald tells lies, Terrorists tell lies: It’s a game.

"It is Iran's jugular now - or possibly never."
- Should I consider that a confession to everything that came before?

It wouldn't matter if Trump was close to a deal with Iran, because Israel would do something to thwart it.
Israel wants more war, not peace.

You know I think that Israel creates terrorists itself right?
- When Israel detains people indefinitely without charge, tortures them and steals their land, then that means there's no due process, and people are forced to take justice into their own hands, even more so when Israel kills their kids.

Israel creates terrorists.

You know I think that Israel creates anti-Semites itself right?
Israel does the most morally reprehensible things to any normal decent human being finds vile and disgusting, and when these normal people try to stand up to defend innocent lives Israel never answers the criticisms, but instead attacks the person that sheds light on these inconvenient truths.

Israel justifies everything it does and says everyone else is wrong.
It's like a man who beats his wife in front of you every day and tells you to mind your business and can't understand why you don't support what he does.

Israel creates anti-semites

U.S. and Israels wars and occupations across the M/E have caused millions of displaced Muslims to flee, and some of these people harbour resentment.
Israels wars cause mass Muslim immigration into Western countries and create a legitimate risk of terrorist attacks in Western countries.

Israeli wars lead to mass Muslim immigration into western nations and terrorist attacks.
- That's what I think.

Israel should've stuck with the JCPOA.
They could've gotten a good deal but they chose to attack Iran instead.
Now that's gone and Iran says you won't gain through negotiations what you failed to gain in battle.

While others try to live in peace the Zionist existence is an endless war they wish others to fight because they can't achieve it on their own, except through blackmail and buying influence.

Google? did smotrich say if you send us to ICC we will destroy palestinian villages

AI Overview
Yes, on May 19, 2026, Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich characterized reports of an International Criminal Court (ICC) arrest warrant against him as a "declaration of war" and explicitly vowed to retaliate by ordering the immediate evacuation and demolition of a Palestinian village

What is that exactly? being clever?
'If you hurt me, I'll hurt them'.
And this somehow proves the ICC prosecutors wrong?
I think it proves them right.

'What is the cause of this whole entire conflict?'

http://x.com/xIsraelExposedx/status/2059224766192533789
(*Note: Iran didn't have a nuclear weapon program in 1948)

Israel blackmails the whole world when it gets ICC prosecutors sanctioned and their bank accounts are frozen and they can't even get pizza delivered.
Seems like the whole world is forced to dance to the Zionists tune, or face reprisals.

The Dangerous Doctor Donald is delusional and "negotiating" with himself! This illegal war has been a total failure for America, just as all the other wars they stared post WWII, they run like a mange dog with its tail between its legs. Trump with all those "Bins", he should be the one in the BIN !

Why wont all the Forum Trumpsters admit Donald is a bloody idiot, and ALL other world leaders laugh at the fool ! Xi and Putin must have had a good old chuckle after Donald vacated China last week. It doesn't say much about the intelligence levels of all YOU Trump supporters.

"Why won`t all the Forum Trumpsters admit Donald is a bloody idiot"
It appears that he has been a privileged idiot ALL his life. What makes you think he might change?

If you take what the Iranians say seriously, then the U.S. is a long way from a deal.
And even if there was a deal America and Israel wouldn't abide by it anyway.

Even some of the most ardent Trump supporters now realise that the idiot Donald is totally out of his depth when it comes to "matters of state", "international diplomacy" etc. Trump thinks that these complex matters can be solved as easily as it is to do a "deal" for a golf course in Florida, or something as trivial as a block of apartments in Manhattan. The idiot thinks people like Putin, Xi and the Iranians are as simple minded as the suckers he's used to ripping off with some shonky deal he's cooked up.

"Leaders" like Donald, like so many before him attract two kinds of supports, the majority, low IQ knuckle dragging rednecks, very gung-ho types who will do whatever you want, and the far more dangerous intelligent, calculating, articulated manipulators who see the "leader" as a useful idiot to be used as a vehicle to meet their ends. Australia is in danger of going down the same path with a couple of fruits in the Lovely Pauline and Barnyard Joy up front, but having much more sinister manipulators pulling their strings from behind!

In a comfortable family, there is communication.
There is compromise, and occasional diplomacy.
These things allow a family to be calm and constructive.
They allow the building of harmonious relationships.
The members of such a family live well.

In an unsettled family, thought comes from one source.
There is no back and forth communication.
There is unwilling compliance with restrictive rules.
The family as a whole is stressed, and not a pleasant place for its members to be.
The latter type of family reminds me of Mr Trump's regime.

It seems to me that a disfunctional family cannot be expected to excel at negotiation.
So Mr Trump's negotiation with Iran is not likely to succeed.
We really should be able to see what the outcome will be.
But Iran is controlled by zealots, and is beyond reason right now.
So don't expect a sensible result or outcome any time soon.

I think donald should hold firm till the very end. LMAO

The utter misunderstandings of the actual situation on the ground in Iran is astounding. But it all results from the self-serving thinking that anything Trump (and the US) does is obviously wrong.

The actual situation is that Iran has been utterly defeated militarily with its navy and airforce totally destroyed and its air defences obliterated. Just last week the US was able to bomb selected sites in western Iran without the slightest push back from a country that no longer has the ability to push back.

Meanwhile the blockade of Iran continues unchallenged and unchallengeable as the noose continues to tighten. Iran's oil fields now largely lay idle and, while they can still get some supplies in via the Caspian Sea and overland from China, its a trickle compared to pre-war trade and what the country needs long-term. Additionally, individual regime kleptocrats are now seeing their massive overseas holdings seized and their hopes of a life of luxury on the French Riviera after they flee Iran, dashed.

Like the Iranian regime itself, some here think that because the US hasn't finished the job via warfare. it means they are weak or incapable. But the truth is very different. The US still holds out hope that the regime can be unrooted by the Iranian people and the last thing they want to do is send it back to the stone age and thus cripple a potential new government. Equally, Trump doesn't want to cause unnecessary Iranian civilian causalities if they can be avoided.

So he sits tight, holding all the aces and waiting for the regime to implode or finally come to its senses. Irrespective of the propaganda that the regime puts out about how they are demanding this and demanding that, they are getting nothing from Trump.

Those who can't see the nose of their face don't get this and there's little point debating it with those who just think everything Trump does is dumb.

But rest assured once this is resolved I'll be coming back to ask each poster how they reconcile their current assertions with the final outcome.

Hi Trumpster,

What a crock of sh!t is your last post. If as YOU claim; "(Iran's) navy and air force totally destroyed and its air defences obliterated." Why then is the Strait of Hormuz closed by the Iranians to unfriendly merchant shipping/ Could it be that Iran still has substantial ballistic missile and attack drone capability.

Daffy Donald said the war would be over in a couple of weeks, its now into its third month. None of the so called American/Zionist objectives have been met.

1. Eliminating Iran's Nuclear Capabilities FAILED
2. Destroying Iran's Military Infrastructure FAILED
3. Regime Change in Iran FAILED
4. Severing Iranian Ties With Proxies In The Region FAILED

Great report card. What objectives have been met?

"What objectives have been met?"

The war's not over. Those evaluations are made at war's end not half way through.

Hi Trumpster,

"half way through" Daffy Donald said it would be over in a couple of weeks, he also said "a deal is very close". What's it to be, is the war going for another three months, as YOU say, are the Iranians about to totally capitulate? Are they going to hand over their 400 kg of enriched uranium, destroy all their drones and missiles, piss the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps off, install that wacko guy who said he is the Shah Of Iran into power. Piss their crazy mates the Houthis in Yemen and other proxies off. Then the Ayatollah packs his bags and takes a holiday to Disneyland. YOU are as delusional as Daffy Donald!

Paul remains anxious to call the game at half-time.

Its already game over mhaze, America lost.
They achieved none of their goals.
And Iran may have already used the enriched Uranium, just as I told David Singer a month or two back that they might.

Larry Johnson : Does Iran Have the Bomb? Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/live/yLSrunuWrns

Hi Trumpster, (The Disloyal Australian)

When did you invent this half-time nonsense. IT WAS TWO WEEKS MAX ACCORDING TO DAFFY DONALD! With no deal, no results and no off ramp, Daffy Donald has taken to abusing the Zionist nut job BS Bibi, with a late night phone call where Daffy Donald called the Zionist nut job "F@#$EN CRAZY" The reality is they are both CRAZY.

"Its already game over mhaze, America lost."
"When did you invent this half-time nonsense."

I didn't invent it. I just looked at the facts.

So, we had rockets flying from Iran into the UAE last week. We had US bombing western Iran last week. The blockade of Iranian ports remains in place. We had the US disabling a false-flag vessel trying to run the blockade last week.

But according to Paul and AC, the war's over!!

"So, we had rockets flying from Iran into the UAE last week."
- Yes they'll do that.
I don't remember the specific attack on UAE last week but Iran will do that.
If Israel keeps attacking Lebanon, Iran will attack the UAE, Isreal's biggest ally in the gulf, where Israeli forces are stationed.

"We had US bombing western Iran last week."
- What did they achieve, nothing.

"The blockade of Iranian ports remains in place."
- The blockade is one the West is imposing on itself and strategic petroleum reserve runs out end of July. If the U.S. blocks Iranian vessels the Iranians block all other vessels.

"We had the US disabling a false-flag vessel trying to run the blockade last week."
- And the Iranians hit a U.S. flagged tanker in response.

I think a few patriot missiles might've malfunctioned in Kuwait.
One may have gone 'return to sender' and hit a residential neighbourhood if the footage is real and another blowing up.

http://x.com/Archer83Able/status/2061965011279286601
http://x.com/jacksonhinkle/status/2061973826737467713

Hi Trumpster,

A simple few questions which YOU wont answer.

Do YOU agree with Daffy Donald that Nut Job Bibi is "F@#%$N CRAZY"?

Do YOU agree with Nut Job Bibi that Daffy Donald is "F@#%$N CRAZY"?

Do YOU agree with 193 World leaders that both Nut Job Bibi and Daffy Donald are "F@#%$N CRAZY"?

Do YOU agree with Melania Trump and Sara Netanyahu that both Nut Job Bibi and Daffy Donald are "F@#%$N CRAZY"?

Both Daffy and Nut Job are on their third wife each, obviously like men, women can't stand the pair, they think they are "F@#%$N CRAZY"

The U.S. in all likelihood has been effectively booted out of the Persian gulf and M/E.
Israel will be throwing a fit but they engineered this debacle.

Trump news at a glance: rare rebuke for president as four House Republicans side with Democrats to pass war powers resolution
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/03/trump-news-latest-updates-today

"The US House of Representatives delivered a stunning rebuke to Donald Trump over his war on Iran on Wednesday, as representatives backed a move to force him to seek approval from Congress or withdraw US forces.

The House voted 215 to 208 in favor of the war powers resolution, as four Republicans voted with Democrats.
The dissident Republicans were Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Warren Davidson of Ohio and Tom Barrett of Michigan."

The dissident Republicans were Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Warren Davidson of Ohio and Tom Barrett of Michigan. AND DAFFY DONALD KNOWS WHERE THEY LIVE! A late night knock on the door by men in suits wearing sunglasses, carrying violin cases is coming their way.

So the usual clowns are cock-a-hoop that the House of Representatives have voted to force Trump to end the war.

But wait, the usual clowns have already told us the war is over!!

Consistency and logic are terms that these clowns really don't understand. BTW, the resolution needs to also pass the Senate and if that happened, would need to be signed by Trump. I'll these two to work out the likelihood of that happening. Dills!

"A simple few questions which YOU wont answer."
In order:
No
No
No
No.

The only person who is "F@#%$N CRAZY" is the questioner.

Hi Trumpster,

With those sycophantic answers, I'm sure you'll get an invite to The Island. Don't forget to pack your black silky PJ's. If not, Donald has spare pair he left at Stormy's house, call in on your way over!

Paul continues to fantasise about going to the island and assumes everyone else shares his fantasies.

But like his utter misunderstanding of things like the Brisbane line and the Pig Iron sold to Japan, Paul misunderstands who actual frequented the island and fails to see that is was the people he supports who shared his fantasies.

Hi Trumpster, (Mr Un-Australian)

Who are these people YOU claim I support? I support Australia, not like YOU who supports Daffy Donald and his MAGA mob. You were over the moon when the crazy one slapped tariffs on us. You were in raptures when he went to war with Iran, a war which has impacted Australia. YOU think nothing of 75,000 murdered Palestinians. I recall YOU were the bloke in the In what can be best described as 'Nuremberg Laws' (the laws that the Nazi's used to force the Jews to sell their property to Aryan citizens) Barnaby Joyce from ONE NATION has said that on assuming government ONE NATION would make it illegal for non-citizens to own property in Australia, regardless of how long they have lived here as permanent residents. Under a ONE NATION government Non-citizens would be forced to sell property owned within 2 years, failure to do so would result in 10 years imprisonment. This kind of draconian rubbish is what ONE NATION is capable of.

"Barnaby Joyce told Sky News on Thursday that his party wanted to force permanent residents to sell their homes"

On Friday party leader Hanson tried to backtrack with a wishy-washy denial saying "One Nation’s policy would allow permanent residents to own homes" This was followed by a ONE NATION spokesman named Bell telling 2GB interviewer Mark Levy that ONE NATION had an excellent home ownership policy, but he couldn't say what it was.

"Andrew Bolt, who interviewed Joyce on Thursday night, later told viewers the bungle demonstrated Pauline Hanson’s party was “literally making up policy as it goes along”.

If Australia wants chaos in government then vote in the fools from ONE NATION.

Hi Trumpster,

Who are these people YOU claim I support? Is support Australia unlike YOU who supports Daffy Donald and the MEGA mob! Are YOU an American, me thinks so!

Paul,

Its possible to support Australia AND support Trump. Indeed, a nuanced view would see that if you want to support Australia you ought to support Trump and his remaking of our main ally.

BTW, just to correct some more of your idiocy, I don't support One Nation and you'll search in vain in these pages to find me expressing any opinion supporting them. Equally you won't find me supporting anyone who went to your fantasy-island unlike you. Nor will you find me running interference for the CCP, unlike you.

I support the continued existence of western civilisation and the continued supremacy of the liberal capitalism not just here but in all freedom-loving countries and as a basis for international commerce and law. Australia needs all those things to survive the assault from the totalitarians in order for us to maintain our freedom and relative prosperity. And that's why the rise of the MAGA movement and the rise of Trump were so important and why anyone with a nuanced view of the next two decades, supports the Trump/MAGA.