It is hard to believe that Trump thought that the mad mullahs could be negotiated with.

Trump was the one asking for the ceasefire after his botched attempt to secure the 60% enriched Uranium at Isfahan resulting in the loss of 2 x MC-130J, 4 x MH-6, and an A10.
Who knows what really happened there, how many U.S. killed and wounded.
I wonder if the runway was mined when they flew in.
http://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/2042323345857744938

Iranian control of the strait was one of the demands Iran listed in it's 10 point demands, just for the U.S to get their 2 week ceasefire.

As for transiting the Strait with 2 U.S. destroyers, Trumps lying just like he is about everything else.
They attempted to, but the Iranians launched drones and locked onto them with cruise missiles and they turned around and retreated.

I'm not sure what this article is about.
Israel doesn't want a deal it wants the war to continue.
Trump's just quickening the pace of global economic collapse.
- Caused by the U.S. and Israel.

Every day on X I have to look at stuff like this.
http://x.com/Alee93ale/status/2044730576792433075
A Palestinian mom was shot point blank in her head by IDF soldiers while she was carrying her child.

Hi AC,

Unfortunately its that kind of obscenity that has some on this Forum applauding! The Zionist are extremist, every bit as bad as Hitler and Stalin, there is no atrocity beyond their capability.

Every. Single. Day.
http://x.com/drhossamsamy65/status/2045127292829990998

Blindfolded, made to run away, then shot in the back of the head for fun anyway.

In the videos you-know-who puts up, nobody is identifiable, and there's no evidence of who shot who. His 'references' don't have anything to do with his antisemitic rants, or the topics. A real beauty recently was his acceptance of a totally unknown person's 'translation' of a speech made in Hebrew.

We used to have a madwoman on OLO similar to him, always putting up shonky 'references' knowing few, if any, people, look at them.

It is pathetic when people people don't have opinions to express on an opinion site, but carry on with rubbish appearing elsewhere from other people as cranky as they are themselves - particularly when they are totally irrelevant.

"His 'references' don't have anything to do with his antisemitic rants, or the topics"
- David's own article in this instance is based on mistruths, Iran was never begging for negotiations, it's Trump that was requesting a ceasefire, Iran they laid out a 10 point plan which needed to be accepted before negotiations took place.

"A real beauty recently was his acceptance of a totally unknown person's 'translation' of a speech made in Hebrew."
- Grok gives an AI assessment, and if the translation was wrong there would likely be a community note.

"We used to have a madwoman on OLO similar to him, always putting up shonky 'references' knowing few, if any, people, look at them."
- You can't even add links to the content on discussions you start.

"It is pathetic when people people don't have opinions to express on an opinion site, but carry on with rubbish appearing elsewhere from other people as cranky as they are themselves - particularly when they are totally irrelevant."
- I always have my own opinion.
The links merely show there was a legitimate basic for my opinion, especially when people like yourself accuse of being antisemitic.
I don't care if you don't watch them.
You call them shonky, but you would, I know your type ttbn.
You'd make every excuse to disbelieve anything that didn't serve to reinforce your own existing biases.
You'd rather stay dumb in your entrenched positions, than learn anything.
And then you advertise your dumbness saying others know nothing.

You're the poster child of the 'useful idiot' ttbn.
But when a chunk of the country tunes into Sky News, then a 'nation of idiots' is par for the course.
Your side is no more or less idiotic than the side you complain about.

“The links merely show there was a legitimate basic …..” (I guess you meant basis, not basic)

The links were not legitimate. As I said, the people in them could not be identified as victims of Israelis. I watched them. You apparently did not even look at them: just grabbed a heading that suited your bigotry, and bunged it in.

In the meantime:

. Provide proof that “David's own article” is “based on mistruths".
. I do reference and acknowledge the source of posts that I start. I do not do so
when I'm just expressing my opinion. I don't need to. An opinion is an opinion, not
something that needs proving.
. If you always have your own opinion, why does that opinion need someone else's
as well? We all know that there are people who have the same opinions as you do.
. You don't care if I watch your little videos? Well, I'm going to keep watching
them. Opinions are one thing. Spreading the lies of others is another.
. You know my ‘type’? Going on your obvious lack of education and Googling, I
doubt that you have had any contact with my ‘type’.
. I don't have to make any excuse to disbelieve your twaddle or your second-hand
twaddle.
. You can think I am dumb if it makes you feel less dumb than you obviously are.

If you think that your opinions can't stand up on their own, referencing the same opinions from someone with the same opinions on social media will not make them any stronger.

Three videos proving nothing on the one post. It will be interesting to see what you come up with next.

David argues 'President Trump was scammed by Iran and Pakistan into beginning negotiations with Iran - when Iran knew it could not complete the immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz.'

This implies that the U.S. did not want a ceasefire but Iran did, and that's not what happened.
Israel meanwhile has been sabotaging any U.S. peace negotiations.

Traffic on the Strait of Hormuz dropped immediately after U.S. and Israeli attack, but I'm not sure it was mined straight away.
The first I saw Iran mention that the strait had been mined was just a few days prior to the ceasefire, but I haven't looked at day by day ship traffic to see when ships first started avoiding the mined area.

In order to get a ceasefire the U.S. apparently had to agree to Iran's 10 point demands, one of which recognised Irans control over the strait.
http://www.youtube.com/live/nH-eyZQHZ6c?t=1182
Look between 21 minutes and 22 minutes on the video.

But anyone that knows anything knows the U.S. does not keep it's word.
They don't do diplomacy, they don't have a reverse gear.
When they say the objective is regime change, they mean it.
I wouldn't negotiate with them.

"You know my ‘type’?"
- That would be the type which believes everything Israel says, but disbelieves anything that show Israeli's in a bad light.
Like you would watch those videos of Palestinians killed, and immediately assume Hamas must've done it, because in your mind there's no way possible a Jewish person could ever do such a thing.
And that's how you approach every accusation leveled at the Israelis, with disbelief, or justification, that the world is just full of irrational anti-Semites, not that anything I say is actually valid on its own merits.

If the only link you can add is one that accompanies you opening post, relating to the topic of discussion then please, do that.

David stated "Trump's conditions to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for two weeks were made clear in his following remarks on Truth Social on 7 April"

Trumps rants don't mean anything.
He changes his opinions on an hourly basis, usually going back on what he says, and despite the bluster he doesn't hold any cards with the strait, Iran does.
He can huff and puff all he wants but it doesn't change the facts on the ground.

If you're going to watch my linked videos, try this one I watched half of it earlier.
http://youtu.be/pDKlaJM_vys

Iran says US accepts 10-point plan for ending war - 8 April
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/iran-says-us-accepts-10-point-plan-for-ending-war/3896929
'Tehran outlines conditions including sanctions relief, continued Iranian control over Strait of Hormuz, withdrawal of US combat forces from region'

I doubt Mr Trump decided on the war by himself.
I am sure his advisors genuinely believed that Iran was close to success with its nuclear ambition.
Just as they were sure Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
I think they messed up yet again.
So there was an ill-advised war.
And, as far as I can gather, it is being badly managed.
I do wish Mr Trump would stop bleating about how destructive he can be.
(you can see I am trying to be diplomatic with my words)
And Mr Netanyahu is no better.
I long ago realised that 'single-mindedness' in that part of the world is destructive.
And just as harmful as was Hitler's single-mindedness.
They are on a parallel.
And both are to be despised.
We can only look on, sometimes with horror, and hope that cooler minds will take control sooner rather than later.

So wheres ttbn?

Iran says US accepts 10-point plan for ending war - April 8
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/iran-says-us-accepts-10-point-plan-for-ending-war/3896929
'Tehran outlines conditions including sanctions relief, continued Iranian control over Strait of Hormuz, withdrawal of US combat forces from region'

>>Iran said early Wednesday that the United States has “in principle” accepted a 10-point proposal aimed at ending the war, according to reports by the state-run Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) network.

Iran’s Supreme National Security Council said in a statement that the proposal would serve as the framework for negotiations aimed at finalizing a broader agreement, though it did not publicly detail all elements of the plan.

IRIB, citing the statement and related reporting, said the proposal includes guarantees of non-aggression against Iran, continued Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, recognition of Tehran’s right to uranium enrichment, the lifting of all US primary and secondary sanctions, the termination of UN Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency Board of Governors resolutions against Iran, payment of compensation, the withdrawal of US combat forces from the region, and ending hostilities across all fronts, including in Lebanon.<<

Tehran rejected 48-hour ceasefire proposal from US, Iranian media, citing source, says
http://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/tehran-rejected-48-hour-ceasefire-proposal-us-iranian-media-citing-source-says-2026-04-03/
'April 3 (Reuters) - An unnamed source told Iran's semi-official Fars news agency on Friday that Tehran had rejected a U.S. proposal for a 48-hour ceasefire.'

* This was just prior to their failed attempt to secure and remove the 460kg of 60% enriched Uranium at Isfahan / F-15E pilot recovery operation

Donald Trump cedes ground to Iran before negotiations even begin - 8 April
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-08/donald-trump-cedes-ground-to-iran-before-negotiations-even-begin/106541368

>>It appears Iran, not the United States, has set the ground rules for negotiations during the next two weeks about how to end the conflict in the Middle East, which has been so catastrophic to regional peace and the global economy.

Just hours after threatening that a "whole civilisation" would die unless the Iranian regime agreed to the demands of the United States, US President Donald Trump came back from the brink and said a two-week ceasefire would now begin.

The crux of this is a "10-point proposal" the US has received from Iran, which Trump said was "a workable basis on which to negotiate".

But if the 10 points are even remotely agreed to, it will mean the combined military might of the US and Israel has not only been unable to fully deliver the emasculation of Iran that they trumpeted, but that Iran will emerge with fewer limitations on it than it has felt for decades.

By defining what is "workable" in the framework set out by Iran, Trump has ceded ground before he has even started.<<

* Note that the oil price was over $110 barrel over the preceding week 3 April - 7 April.

Davids article is misleading because it assumes Iran were desperate for the ceasefire, when it was the U.S. who were seeking it.
U.S. bases had been battered and they needed to regroup and resupply.