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Islam is the root cause as Islamism is a product of Islam : Comments

By Graham Young, published 24/12/2025

The Islamic community needs to own the Bondi massacre. While individual Muslims are not responsible, Islamism rises from Islam, and has been allowed to fester in the community.

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Fine, but.... does nor explain dog whistles and extremist attacks by white Christian nationalists versus Jews, Muslims and Christians of the centre?

Security agencies in both Oz and US have warned that far right (mostly) Christians are more dangerous eg. Tree of Life Synagogue, Charlottesville, Breivik, Christchurch etc.?

Meanwhile, as reported in by NYT etc., Atlas Koch (inc AIP here) Network's Heritage developed 'Project Esther' for Netanyahu, Trump and Putin?

'From the New York Times:

The Group Behind Project 2025 Has a Plan to Crush the Pro-Palestinian Movement

Even before President Trump was re-elected, the Heritage Foundation, best known for Project 2025, set out to destroy pro-Palestinian activism in the United States….

…..‘But critics such as Mr. Jacoby say the think tank is exploiting real concerns about antisemitism to advance its broader agenda of radically reshaping higher education and crushing progressive movements more generally.

Project Esther exclusively focuses on antisemitism on the left, ignoring antisemitic harassment and violence from the right.‘

How does it help by always and solely blaming 'Islam', which has diversity and its own issues like other religions, leading to and justifying authoritarianism and corruption by faux or misguided believing leaders?
Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 1:32:03 AM
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Hi again Yuyutsu,

If you are not going to define Christianity, and others as religions, then what are you going to define them as? A belief system, I assume, worshipping a supernatural deity (gods) of some kind, with a set of instructions as to how one should live ones life in order to receive a afterlife reward. Is that what its all about?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 5:45:28 AM
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My guess is that the Woke Left & supporters of Labor won't get this !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 6:17:03 AM
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Dear Paul,

«If you are not going to define Christianity, and others as religions, then what are you going to define them as?»

You touched on a fine point:
It is so much easier to state what something is not than to define what it is.

Definitions do not match reality and may be used for convenience only.
Definitions are digital, they best fit rigid, fixed axiomatic systems such as mathematics, but reality is analogue and constantly changing.

Christianity is not a religion because it does not always (only sometimes) help its adherents to come closer to God.

Also, Christianity is not a belief system because different Christians have varied system of beliefs - some very conservative, others progressive. Catholicism has the catechism, but that is not shared by protestants, nor truly taken up by (or even known to) every Catholic.

Also, Christianity cannot be defined by worship because not all those considered Christian worship.

My favourite definition of Christianity, is quite exclusive I'm afraid:
"Christianity is the society of Christian people: a Christian is someone who, following the teachings and example of Sage Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and should the need arise, is willing to give up their life on the cross or equivalent for the sake of their love to others".

So sadly in practice, your definition of Christianity will need to be relative, situational and depend on the context.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 3:01:46 PM
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"Between 1979 and April 2024, we recorded 66,872 Islamist attacks worldwide. These attacks caused the deaths of at least 249,941 people."

Religion of peace?

OTOH over 80% of those attacks were Mohomadians killing other Mohomadians who didn't believe exactly the same fables. While they're killing each other, I'm fine with it. When they get invited here and use the same murderous mayhem, then I'm not so thrilled.

Of course, there are many here who, for all sorts of reasons, would prefer these figures weren't mentioned and instead think that their enemies are elsewhere. Bondi proved them wrong.... not that they'll ever know it, let alone admit it.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 5:31:27 PM
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Hi again Yuyutsu,

I have great difficulty with the notion that a Christian is one who is; "following the teachings and example of Sage Jesus Christ of Nazareth", as nothing of the teachings of Christ was ever directly recorded. I believe the modern gospels are the works of (many) others who came sometime after Christ, and have been interpreted and reinterpreted many times over. The "teachings" no doubt changed to fit with the prevailing beliefs, some political that were prevalent at different times through out history. I maintain that Saul of Tarsus (Apostle Paul)was a greater influence on Christianity than Jesus himself.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 8:17:59 PM
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